Episode 28 - SMA Wiremu Moffitt (NZ Army) and SMA Grant McFarlane AM (Australian Army) - ANZAC Day Special

The Centre for Army Leadership Podcast

In this special ANZAC day episode, we are delighted to talk to Sergeant Major of the New Zealand Army Wiremu Moffitt, and his counterpart Sergeant Major of the Australian Army Grant McFarlane AM. As one would expect from a podcast between three close allies, the importance of interoperability, shared values and trust between partners is discussed in length. They both talk passionately and openly about the importance of self-awareness and share with us how they both lacked this in their early careers, highlighting that young bravado masked their weaknesses as leaders. Next, they speak about the importance of culture and discuss leaders' role in shaping it. They emphasise that although leaders shape the culture, the symbiotic relationship between them means that the leader is also shaped and developed by the culture itself. Finally, they discuss the role history and traditions play in shaping today's leaders, and how, as their respective organisations move forward, they should never forget the past and those that have led before them.

Warrant Officer Class One Wiremu Moffitt - New Zealand Defence Force (nzdf.mil.nz)

Regimental Sergeant Major – Army | Army.gov.au