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1 Gene Baur: Confronting the Morality of Factory Farming 28:16
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Gene Baur is the founder of Farm Sanctuary, a place of rescue, refuge, and adoption for hundreds of farm animals each year. Farm Sanctuary shelters enable visitors to connect with farm animals as emotional, intelligent individuals. Gene has also led campaigns to change laws about animal treatment and taken undercover photographs of farms, stockyards, and slaughterhouses, documenting deplorable conditions. His pictures and videos exposing factory farming cruelties have aired nationally and internationally, educating millions about the plight of modern farm animals, and his rescue work inspired an international farm sanctuary movement. Once called “the conscience of the food movement” by Time magazine, Gene walks the walk and talks the talk when it comes to food and animal rights. Jay and Gene discuss the political and cultural steps that will bring about the end of factory farming and a healthier approach to animals and food. Today's episode was produced by Tani Levitt and Mijon Zulu. To check out more episodes or to learn more about the show, you can visit our website Allaboutchangepodcast.com. If you like our show, spread the word, tell a friend or family member, or leave us a review on your favorite podcasting app. We really appreciate it. All About Change is produced by the Ruderman Family Foundation. Episode Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:05 The state of veganism 6:18 Cultural shifts around factory farming and veganism 14:58 Gene’s three paths of activism 17:44 Gene’s legislative successes 22:25 Accepting people where they are in their journeys 25:36 Thank you and goodbye For video episodes, watch on www.youtube.com/@therudermanfamilyfoundation Stay in touch: X: @JayRuderman | @RudermanFdn LinkedIn: Jay Ruderman | Ruderman Family Foundation Instagram: All About Change Podcast | Ruderman Family Foundation To learn more about the podcast, visit https://allaboutchangepodcast.com/ Looking for more insights into the world of activism? Be sure to check out Jay’s brand new book, Find Your Fight , in which Jay teaches the next generation of activists and advocates how to step up and bring about lasting change. You can find Find Your Fight wherever you buy your books, and you can learn more about it at www.jayruderman.com .…
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Renegade Marketers Unite focuses on marketing innovators, uncovering the how, what and why behind their on-going success. Award-winning marketer, author, and entrepreneur Drew Neisser keeps these conversations interesting and inspiring, wrapping up each episode with on-the-spot analysis and insights for big marketers and those that want to be. For more information visit http://DrewNeisser.com/podcast
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Renegade Marketers Unite focuses on marketing innovators, uncovering the how, what and why behind their on-going success. Award-winning marketer, author, and entrepreneur Drew Neisser keeps these conversations interesting and inspiring, wrapping up each episode with on-the-spot analysis and insights for big marketers and those that want to be. For more information visit http://DrewNeisser.com/podcast
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1 471: Dear CEO: This Is What Marketing Actually Does 50:51
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Most B2B CEOs never spent time in marketing. Fewer than one in five ever held the title. Which explains a lot. From undervalued budgets to misaligned expectations, marketing often gets boxed in as a support function instead of the growth driver it is. If marketing is going to lead, CEOs need to understand what it can really do and what to look for in a CMO who’s built to deliver. To set the record straight, Drew taps three marketing leaders, Rebecca Stone (formerly Cisco ), Grant Johnson ( Chief Outsiders ), and Jan Deahl ( Drake Star ), to reframe how CEOs see marketing. It is a strategic engine built to shape markets, guide buyers, and drive growth. Together, they make the case for what’s possible when CMOs are empowered to lead. In this episode: Rebecca on why CMOs need to think and act like a CEO Grant on how mismatched expectations set CMOs up to fail Jan on aligning marketing’s role to company stage and goals Plus: The key questions every CEO should ask their CMO What to fix when marketing is stuck in order-taking mode How smart onboarding sets CMOs up to lead Why growth depends on more than just demand gen Tune in for signals that shift how your CEO sees marketing. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 470: The CMOs Playbook for the Coldest Seat in the C-Suite 54:02
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The CMO role is not for the faint of heart. Growth targets loom large. Every dollar and decision gets second-guessed. MarTech keeps stacking up until it threatens to topple over. Drew calls it the coldest seat in the C-suite. It is also the most dynamic, the one that rewards clear thinking, fearless collaboration, and a readiness to shake up the playbook. In this episode, Drew sits down with hosts Alec Cheung and Barb VanSomeren of The Marketing Share podcast to share wisdom from his own career and from hundreds of CMOs inside CMO Huddles. Together, they talk about the collision of growth pressure, evolving executive dynamics, and constant change. The conversation gets to the heart of how CMOs can simplify their strategies, earn influence across the leadership team, and lead marketing with focus and courage when the demands never let up. In this episode: Drew shares how CMOs can stay focused when everything feels urgent Drew explains why a peer network is essential for clarity and solutions Drew reveals the mindset shift that turns growth pressure into momentum Plus: Building alignment with your CEO and CFO on marketing’s impact Finding the confidence to defend your strategy Lessons from leaders who kept brands moving in tough markets Why bold marketing still wins when others play it safe Tune in for a look at the CMO role today and the mindset, moves, and alliances it takes to succeed under constant pressure. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 469: GenAI Video & Audio: Tools, Tradeoffs & Lessons 53:00
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It started with a 90-day challenge: make a GenAI-powered video promoting the 2025 CMO Super Huddle using only off-the-shelf tools. What followed was equal parts ambition, frustration, learning, and editing. Along the way, Drew got a crash course in prompt writing, script timing, voice cloning, and the realities of working inside tools that promise automation but still require a certain level of finesse. With GenAI coach Samantha Stark of Phyusion guiding the early stages and Steve Mudd of Talentless AI stepping in for post, the project quickly became a real test of creative endurance. Each step surfaced a new set of tradeoffs. The tools were powerful, but stitching them together was anything but seamless. What came out the other side is something Drew’s proud to share, along with lessons from two expert AI collaborators and a few fun reveals they brought to the table that show just how weird, clever, and unexpected GenAI production can get. In this episode: Samantha shares how GenAI tools spark ideas but still need human direction to shape tone and story Steve explains how editing brings structure and emotion to GenAI content for a more watchable result Both guests highlight the importance of adding context to make GenAI output resonate with viewers Plus: What GenAI tools need from you upfront to deliver useful output How multi-tool workflows impact timing, syncing, and storytelling Where to focus your time during GenAI production for the biggest payoff When expert editors can step in to shape flow, tone, and polish Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at GenAI video and audio creation, guided by the experts who know how to make it all come together. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 468: Demand-Side Sales: The Forces Behind Every Yes 50:20
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Every customer reaches a turning point. Something's not working the way it used to. And now they're ready for change. That's when your product appears as a possibility. But if you lead with features or force-fit personas, you'll miss the real energy behind their decision. That's why Bob Moesta starts with struggle. In this episode, he joins Drew to discuss how demand forms through struggling moments, not random needs, and why nobody buys any product randomly, ever. As the author of Demand-Side Sales 101 and a longtime builder and educator, Bob shares how to identify that momentum, map the forces behind a decision, and reframe sales and marketing as tools for understanding what buyers are really trying to solve. What You’ll Learn: Why buying decisions start with struggling moments How to ask questions that surface energy, not just answers The four forces shaping decisions: push, pull, anxiety, habit How to spot what customers switch from and why Why the buyer vs. user distinction matters in B2B Tune in to hear how demand really forms and how to spot it when it does. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 467: The Strategy-First MarTech Stack 48:44
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AI tools. CDPs. DAMs. Shiny objects everywhere. It’s easy to fall for the promise of more tech. But without a plan, that stack starts stacking you. Martech only performs when every platform has a purpose, every user is accountable, and every dollar spent ties back to a strategic outcome. Drew is joined by Kathie Johnson (formerly Sitecore ) and Kris Salazar ( Appcast ) to talk MarTech headaches, from stack bloat to AI overload to the brutal cost of tools no one’s using. Because building a smarter stack means cutting dead weight, keeping what helps, and making sure every platform has a champion who’s accountable for its impact. In this episode: Kathie on using MarTech maps and AI to get a 30% efficiency boost Kris on quarterly audits, tool ownership, and measurable outcomes Why both agree that stack success starts with strategy and ownership Plus: What to look for in a tech audit Why data clarity is the key to real personalization How to avoid tech for tech’s sake The spending rule that keeps budgets balanced Tune in for a reality check on what it takes to make your MarTech stack deliver without adding more to the pile. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 466: The Synthetic Research Advantage 26:49
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Synthetic research is rewriting the rules—and Jon Lombardo is here to explain how. In this Huddles Quick Take, the Evidenza co-founder breaks down the three biggest misconceptions marketers have about AI-generated research, from assumptions about accuracy to the myth of average insights. You’ll hear how synthetic research can help you test messaging, uncover clear audience insights, and even rewrite jargon so sales and buyers actually understand it—all without waiting months or spending a fortune. What You’ll Learn: 3 misconceptions marketers have about synthetic research Why AI can surface insights that are better than traditional methods How synthetic research unlocks deeper audience understanding at scale When to use synthetic over human research (and how they work together) For the rest of the conversation with Jon—including B2B use cases, segmentation examples, and a deeper dive into category entry points—visit our YouTube channel (CMO Huddles Hub) or click here: [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4S_Ib-SmZY ]. Get more insights like these by joining our free Starter program at cmohuddles.com . For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 465: Positioning as a Growth Engine 51:34
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Penguins spend 75% of their lives in the water, actively positioning themselves exactly where they need to be to hunt and survive. It’s intentional placement. Strong brands do the same. They know where they belong and commit. Too many don’t. They drift, hoping the market finds them. You’ve got to stake your spot and give your marketing something to stand on. In this episode, Drew brings in Marni Puente ( SAIC ) and Sara Larsen ( Wolters Kluwer Health ), two marketers who’ve learned that positioning only works when it’s clear, repeated often, and owned beyond marketing. They get into how to break the cycle of repositioning, earn internal trust, and lay the groundwork for durable growth. In this episode: Marni shares how a tight positioning strategy anchored SAIC’s rebrand and became a decision filter across the org Sara explains how to drive clarity in a matrixed enterprise, aligning stakeholders without watering down the message Both guests reflect on the power of internal alignment as the real test of a strong position Plus: How to test positioning with internal and external audiences Why simplicity is your signal when it comes to clarity What positioning unlocks across marketing, sales, and culture How to build buy-in that lasts beyond launch Tune in to learn how focused positioning gives every team a north star and puts your brand strategy to work across the business. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 464: Turning Analyst Relations into Market Traction 51:11
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You can’t game the Gartner system. You can’t fast-track a Forrester mention. But you can show up prepared, relevant, and consistent. Analyst Relations is the slowest move on the board and the one that defines how your company is positioned on calls, in rooms, and across the category. To trace the full arc of this relationship, Drew is joined by Dan Lowden ( Blackbird.AI ), Lorie Coulombe ( Equity Shift ), and Lynn Tornabene ( Anteriad ). These are marketing leaders who’ve built analyst trust from scratch, played the long game, and seen the ripple effects hit pipeline, brand, and board-level confidence. They’ve turned AR into an amplifier, and they’re here to show you how to do the same. In this episode: Dan on building analyst trust without budget through clear positioning and repeat engagement Lorie on prepping spokespeople and leading briefings with relevance over polish Lynn on aligning teams and delivering consistent, high-value analyst touchpoints Plus: What analysts want from a briefing Why your first 20 minutes set the tone The biggest mistake CMOs still make in prep How to turn analyst feedback into team clarity Tune in to learn how consistent, credible AR earns analyst trust and long-term traction in the market. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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Joelle Kaufman has been both a CRO and a CMO—and she’s here to tell you: if sales and marketing aren’t on the same page, you’re leaving revenue on the table. In this Huddles Quick Take, Joelle outlines the three most common mistakes CMOs make when trying to align with sales—and how to avoid them. From pipeline goals to budget tension to attribution battles, Joelle shares how CMOs can build better partnerships that actually drive revenue. What You’ll Learn: 3 alignment mistakes that keep marketing and sales at odds Why obsessing over MQLs sends the wrong signal How shared pipeline goals help unify teams The real problem with attribution finger-pointing For the rest of the conversation with Joelle, visit our YouTube channel (CMO Huddles Hub) or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64XHb_E7UT4 . Get more insights like these by joining our free Starter program at cmohuddles.com. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 462: Building a Better ABM Motion 44:13
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ABM falls apart fast when teams jump in before locking down who they’re chasing, why it matters, and how it’s all supposed to run. Sales pushes one list, marketing builds another, and no one agrees on who actually matters. No shared ICP? No clean data? Well, no chance. You need a strategy. Guest host Jon Russo ( B2B Fusion ) corrals Heidi Bullock ( Tealium ), Patti Newcomer ( Centerbase ), and Bindu Chellappan ( Corpay ) for a breakdown of how they’re keeping their ABM engines running clean. Think pods with purpose, seller-first workflows, and data that matters. In this episode: Heidi on running pods that bring marketing, sales, and CS into one motion Patti on aligning across the funnel and why ABM needs ownership Bindu on activating firmographic and intent data with shared definitions Plus: Where alignment really starts Why trust beats tech every time How AI is speeding up the grunt work without losing the signal The metrics that actually tell you it’s working Tune in to learn about what breaks ABM, what fixes it, and how to keep teams pulling in the same direction. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 461: Pricing Power: Marketing's CFO Currency 51:34
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Let's face it, most marketing metrics don't travel well to the CFO's office. Pricing power is different. It's measurable, margin-backed, and proof that your brand is strong enough to charge more without losing volume. To help make sense of it all, Drew brings in Chris Burggraeve , Founder of Vicomte and author of books on marketing and business strategy. Together, they discuss what pricing power means, how to measure it, and why it's the most powerful way to communicate marketing value to your CFO and C-suite. In this episode: What pricing power means and how to measure it Why brand strength drives profit, not just visibility How CMOs can align with CFOs through finance fluency The tools and mindset needed to link marketing to valuation How pricing power bridges marketing metrics with financial outcomes Tune in for a clearer way to connect brand, margin, and market strength. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 460: GenAI Plays CMOs Are Running in 2025 16:03
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🎙️ In this Drew-on-Drew episode, Drew puts penguin hat-Drew in the hot seat as they riff on how B2B CMOs are getting smart and a little scrappy with Generative AI, finding what works and sparking fresh energy across their teams. It’s a fast-paced convo sparked by real stories from marketing leaders in the thick of GenAI, testing big ideas, fielding questions from curious CEOs, and rallying their teams behind the experimentation. Throughout, both Drews dish out the practical, the surprising, and the just plain fun ways marketers are experimenting with GenAI. Expect smart plays, one very silly penguin hat, and a few “why didn’t I think of that?” moments. Key Takeaways: Build your own Executive GPT and walk into every boardroom meeting three steps ahead Outsmart shallow C-suite prompts with better inputs and smarter thinking Turn team learning into an AI challenge that brings the fun back to marketing Tap into Customer GPTs and synthetic research to surface insights you didn’t know you had Get ready for GEO because AI-first search is already reshaping the game Tune in for a few GenAI moves you’ll wish you tried sooner! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 459: The CMO as Chief Collaboration Officer 37:04
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Be honest, when you think “CMO,” do you picture campaigns, brand work, or the de facto unifier of a siloed C-suite? In this episode, guest host Narine Galstian ( SADA ) leads a conversation with Katie McAdams ( Basis Technologies ) and Julia Goebel ( Komodo Health ) on how the CMOs role has grown into a key driver of org-wide alignment. It’s part diplomat, part coach, translating strategy across departments and turning zigzags at the top into coordinated momentum. In this episode: Katie shares how early signals from marketing and sales can shape product strategy before it hits the roadmap Julia explains why cohesive brand messaging only happens when product, marketing, and sales move as one Narine explores how marketing becomes the connective tissue that keeps cross-functional teams in sync Plus: Why fragile alignment breaks when you skip the relationship-building How “agree and commit” clears the clutter when teams clash The case for marketers to stop owning just campaigns and start owning outcomes Tune in for a blueprint on becoming the Chief Collaboration Officer your org needs! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 458: Sales + Marketing: The Alignment Equation 52:07
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Nothing scrambles a CMOs brain faster than parsing pipeline math with sales. Alignment starts with one number, owned together, and a shared path from first touch to closed won. Miss that, and both sides will be pulling their hair out debating what happened to the pipeline. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Lisa Cole ( 2X ), Dave Bornmann ( Higher Logic ), and Marshall Poindexter ( yorCMO ) to tackle the GTM strategy that frays the most nerves: sales and marketing alignment. In this episode: Lisa shares how GTM teams build trust through shared goals, clean data, and dashboards that leave no room for spin Dave explains how strong sales relationships gave marketing influence across the full funnel Marshall shows how marketers earn trust by speaking sales’ language and showing they’re in it for the same win Plus: Why sales questions your pipeline numbers and how to rebuild trust How shared dashboards and definitions keep teams honest How to speak sales without losing your marketing lens Tune in to hear how sales and marketing alignment starts with shared goals and grows from there. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 457: The CMO’s Executive Reputation Formula 26:40
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The career mistake that haunts CMOs most? Waiting until they're out of a job to build their personal brand. In this Huddles Quick Take, reputation management expert Marc Reichel from Qnary reveals the three critical mistakes B2B executives make when building their online presence. Plus, he shares practical advice on creating meaningful engagement that enhances both your personal brand AND your company's visibility. What You'll Learn: How to identify and focus on the right target audience The optimal content strategy (4 blended posts per week) Why 70-80% of your content should be thought leadership, not company promotion How to build your reputation while supporting your organization For the full conversation covering the right way to tag people in posts, how to get named a LinkedIn “Top Voice,” and recommendations for platforms beyond LinkedIn, visit our YouTube channel (CMO Huddles Hub) or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T9Rfcs-2CY Get more insights like these by joining our free Starter program at cmohuddles.com. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 456: The B2B Product Launch Blueprint 52:36
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Drew worked on the team that launched the Panasonic Toughbook by driving a Hummer over it on live TV! That stunt turned heads, sure, but it also drilled the product’s promise into buyers’ brains: tough enough to survive anything. The best launches find that one thing that matters, makes it unforgettable, and builds everything else around it. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Guy Yalif ( Webflow ), Chris Pieper ( ADP ), and Ali McCarthy ( Amplify Your Voice Studio ) to talk about why great launches start with one magical thing: the product’s essence. In this episode: Guy shares how Webflow’s multi-product expansion demanded a rethink of what buyers really needed and why one-size-fits-all launches rarely succeed Chris explains why the launch of ADP’s Lyric platform meant wrangling hundreds of voices into one clear story without losing focus on what matters Ali breaks down why putting the customer’s pain first is key and why clarity always beats complexity Plus: Why understanding the customer’s pain points beats any feature checklist Why selling everything at once kills momentum How to keep the story tight so the team’s always on the same page Why one person needs to own the launch story from start to finish Tune in to hear how great launches find the product’s essence and turn it into a story buyers can’t ignore. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 455: From Positioning to Pitch: Making Your Messaging Stick 55:47
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B2B CMOs know positioning matters—but too often, it vanishes when sales starts talking. In this episode, positioning guru April Dunford pulls back the curtain on the disconnect between marketing and sales and shares exactly how to build a sales pitch that wins. Drawing from her book Sales Pitch and decades of experience, April shares a battle-tested framework for building pitches that set the context, overcome indecision, and spotlight your unique value—without overwhelming buyers or falling into feature hell. Key Mistakes: Mistake #1: Treating positioning as marketing-only Mistake #2: Assuming sales will “get it” if you hand them positioning docs Mistake #3: Building sales pitches without a clear, compelling structure In this episode: Why positioning is the starting point for every winning pitch How marketing can frame the problem so sales doesn’t chase the wrong story Why leading with your company history stalls momentum What smart pitch sequencing sounds like in action 🐧 This Episode Is For: CMOs tired of great positioning dying in a sales deck—and want to arm their teams with pitch narratives that close. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 454: The GenAI Reset: How to Simplify, Strategize, and Scale 37:25
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Is your GenAI stack bloated, scattered, or underused? You're not alone. In this Huddles Quick Take, GenAI advisor Nicole Leffer delivers a fast-paced, practical deep dive into what marketers are still getting wrong with GenAI—and how to fix it. You’ll also learn why Deep Research may be the most powerful feature you're not using. Plus, Nicole shares how ChatGPT helped her build a full keynote deck (including visuals!) and how to stay on top of hallucination risks in strategic work. What You’ll Learn 3 common GenAI mistakes marketers make—plus one just for CMOs Why most teams only need one core tool (and which Nicole ranks highest) How to use Deep Research to analyze competitors, build strategy, and repurpose content Why great prompting starts with generous context and a clear goal Want more? Catch the rest of the conversation on the CMO Huddles Hub YouTube channel or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbdXnseUK-U For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 453: The Discipline of Category Creation 52:21
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Everyone wants to be in a category of one. But until analysts acknowledge it, customers search for it, and competitors show up, it’s not quite a category—more a call you made before the market did. Creating one means walking a line between leading the story and waiting for the market to catch up. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Bernd Leger of Cornerstone OnDemand , Charles Groome of Biz2Credit , and Jakki Geiger to share their insights into building a category from scratch. In this episode: Bernd shares how Cornerstone moved beyond LMS into “workforce agility,” backed by acquisitions, analyst engagement, and full-team alignment. Charles explains how Biz2Credit is carving out a new lane in FinTech by naming the problem and using familiar language to build demand. Jakki outlines what separates true category creation from disruption, and why team-wide clarity is the hidden work that drives both. Plus: Why a real customer problem should shape your category narrative How to bring analysts in without losing control of the story What it takes to bring your team along when the category doesn’t exist yet Tune in to learn how category creation starts, builds, and earns its place in the market! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 452: The New Rules of Marketing Team Design 49:48
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Marketing org charts may look innocent, but they’re loaded with meaning. Split your team into “revenue” and “corporate” and you’re sending a message, whether you mean to or not. Structure reveals philosophy. And in B2B, that philosophy had better be built for trust, speed, and results. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Kelly Hopping ( Demandbase ), Lesley Davis ( Waggoner Engineering ), and Gary Sevounts ( Simpplr ) to discuss how they’re shaping marketing teams that reflect clearer priorities, move in sync with the business, and operate at the pace growth demands. In this episode: Kelly built her team around one goal: earning sales love. It reshaped her team’s structure, mindset, and KPIs. Lesley explains how cultural clarity and cross-functional trust helped her team scale fast inside a complex org. Gary shares how “Treasure Ops” became a full-funnel GTM engine, reviving stalled deals and tying ops directly to pipeline. You’ll also learn: Why your org structure should follow how your buyers engage How AI is already shifting roles How shared metrics and a single definition of success align marketing and sales Tune in for a look at how marketing teams are being built to meet the moment! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 451: Events with Intent: How CMOs Turn Brand Moments into Growth 52:04
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You can spend six figures on an event and still walk away with nothing but badge scans and a fuzzy sense of brand presence. But when you treat it as a full-funnel campaign, that’s when the impact starts early and lasts well beyond the event itself. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Ellina Shinnick ( HUB International ), Kevin Ruane ( Precisely ), and Isabelle Papoulias ( EliteOps ) to explore how teams show up with intention and turn B2B events into focused, cross-functional efforts that build brand, strengthen buyer confidence, and avoid the all-too-common post-event fade. In this episode: Ellina breaks down HUB’s three-part event framework: Sales alignment, rigorous ROI auditing, and one bold theme that ties it all together. Kevin shares how a shift from demand gen to brand-first events, paired with sideline plays and airport branding, led to unexpected revenue wins. Isabelle gives the play-by-play on how startups can show up strong with limited budgets and purposeful sequencing. Plus: Why pre-event planning is where ROI starts How to audit your event calendar for strategic fit (not just attendance numbers) What actually works for post-event follow-up, and what to skip Why one big creative idea can carry you through a whole year of events Tune in to steal what works and rethink how events drive brand and pipeline! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 450: CMO-ing in 2025: 10 GenAI-Powered Tactics to Stay Ahead 21:21
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🎉 Episode 450 is here—and the Drews are doubling up to help CMOs meet the moment. With marketers everywhere facing a "do more with less" mandate, Drew interviews… penguin hat-Drew to unveil 10 innovative strategies to boost impact without burning out. From digital twins to synthetic research, from YouTube Shorts to GenAI-engine-optimization, this episode is packed with ideas that CMO Huddles members are already exploring—and you should be too. 🧠 Expect tactical inspiration. A little penguin talk. And a lot of alliteration. 🧰 Topics include: How to build your “digital double” Leveraging synthetic research and deep research tools The new rules of trust-based buying AI-powered content workflows and smarter chatbots Why you should care about LLM visibility and video virality 💡 All ten ideas come with expert references—many of whom will be at Super Huddle 2025 . 🎧 Tune in. Take notes. Then pick 2–3 ideas to test this quarter. You’ll thank yourself later. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 449: The CAB Playbook: Structure and Follow-Through 52:12
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Most companies launch a customer advisory board with good intentions. A few emails go out, a meeting gets booked, and then… not much happens. But when CABs are built with the right structure and support, they can drive some serious value for the business and the customer. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Melanie Marcus ( Surescripts ), Marca Armstrong ( Sensera Systems ), and Marina Ilishaev ( Boardstream AI ) about what separates a one-off event from a CAB that earns ongoing attention, input, and trust. From executive alignment to post-meeting follow-through, this conversation is packed with real examples of CABs done right and lessons from the ones that nearly fell flat. In this episode: How Surescripts turned a CAB into a strategic driver over six years How Sensera uses CAB insights to steer product and sales direction Why structure, ownership, and trust matter more than slick agendas Plus: How to get buy-in from execs, internal teams, and customers Ways to keep CABs active between meetings Metrics that help track engagement and impact Tune in to learn what it takes to build a CAB your customers want to be part of, and your team can actually learn from! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 448: The CMO’s Path to the Boardroom 54:25
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Think CMOs don’t belong in the boardroom? Think again. Today’s top marketers are stepping beyond the C-suite, bringing strategic insight, customer obsession, and data-driven decision-making to board-level conversations. But how do you actually make that leap? In this episode of Renegade Marketers Unite, Drew Neisser sits down with three marketing leaders who’ve done just that: Denise Vu Broady ( Collibra ), Peter Finter ( KX ), and Katrina Klier ( Sage Strategy Group ). They share how they earned board seats—and how you can too. In this episode: How Denise mapped her board journey five years in advance Why Peter leads with risk and strategy to earn trust at the top What Katrina looks for in a board-ready résumé (hint: it’s not brand metrics) Plus: Why nonprofit and advisory roles are the best launchpads When to invest in certifications like NACD and PDA How to talk board ambitions with your CEO (without raising red flags) Why CMOs are more board-ready than they realize Whether you’re just curious or actively pursuing a seat, this episode is your inside track to the boardroom. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 447: Rethinking Inbound, Outbound & Everything in Between 46:01
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Inbound and outbound aren’t opposing forces—they’re two sides of the same motion. When marketing owns both, it opens the door for tighter execution, faster learning, and better performance. But that kind of momentum doesn’t come from chasing tactics. It comes from reworking how the work actually gets done. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Christina Kyriazi of PhotoShelter about how she rebuilt the company’s go-to-market engine from the inside out. From bringing outbound under marketing, to embedding product marketing early, to using experiments to guide spend, Christina shares how structure and process—not just tactics—made all the difference. What You’ll Learn: ✔ Why outbound now rolls up to marketing and how that changed execution ✔ How product marketing helped define segments, use cases, and “wow” moments ✔ What “speed to lead” actually looks like and why it’s working ✔ How underperforming tactics became high-converting plays ✔ Where AI is helping accelerate research, content, and workflows without replacing the human voice If you're reworking how your team goes to market—structure, process, and all—tune in! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 446: The CMO's AI Implementation Roadmap 28:19
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Is your 'go play with AI' strategy actually sabotaging adoption across your marketing team? In this Huddles Quick Take, AI consultant Tahnee Perry reveals the three critical mistakes CMOs make when trying to drive GenAI adoption and shares her proven 4-step formula for building a truly AI-savvy marketing organization. What You'll Learn: Why "go play with AI" is a recipe for failure and what to do instead How to avoid implementing AI tools without clear strategic goals The importance of addressing fear and uncertainty around AI A 4-step framework for successful AI adoption For the full conversation covering Tahnee’s favorite GenAI tools, real-world examples, and how to attribute ROI to AI, visit our YouTube channel (CMO Huddles Hub) or click here: [ https://youtu.be/HRRqFTAuHl4?si=sR36YNiniy86-B3u ]. Plus, surprise guest Liza Adams joins the conversation to share the biggest GenAI unlocks for CMOs and their teams today. Coming Soon: Join Tahnee Perry and Lisa Adams for another Bonus Huddle in June where they'll share how a lean 25-person marketing team transformed into a 45-member human-AI powerhouse. Apply for membership at cmohuddles.com to participate. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 445: Marketing + Comms: Getting in Sync 51:43
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When marketing and comms teams aren’t aligned, it shows. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by CMOs Cary Bainbridge ( ABM Industries ), Laura MacGregor ( Center for Internet Security ), and Grant Johnson ( Chief Outsiders ) for a candid look at what it really takes to get marketing and comms moving in sync. From co-owning messaging to embedding AI tools and crisis plans into the mix, these leaders share how to stay coordinated without stepping on each other’s toes. Here’s what you’ll hear: How Cary and her comms partner rolled out a brand relaunch to 100,000 employees Why Laura brought marketing and comms under one roof, and what that made possible How Grant built cross-functional accountability with the right metrics Plus: What to do when misinformation hits, and the playbooks you’ll want ready How AI is speeding up localization, automation, and cross-team coordination How to activate internal brand champions and cross-functional councils What stakeholder engagement looks like when it’s done right Why comms needs a direct line to the C-Suite, and what happens when it doesn’t If you’re done playing telephone across departments, this episode offers a practical path to alignment so marketing and comms stay in sync. Tune in! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 444: B2B CMOs Deploying GenAI to Win 56:00
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GenAI has moved past the “what if” stage. Now it’s more like, “what else can we use this for?” And that change in mindset is reshaping the day-to-day—from big-picture strategy to the smallest tasks. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Karen Feldman ( Iron Mountain ), Adriana Gil Miner ( Iterable ), and Jeff Morgan ( Elements ), three marketing leaders who’ve made GenAI part of their daily toolkit. They’re applying GenAI to content engines, campaign strategy, customer journeys—and they’re seeing results that are hard to ignore. Here’s what you’ll hear: How IBM used Adobe Firefly to produce 10x more content and beat campaign benchmarks by 26x. The Iterable ad challenge that doubled demo requests and surfaced unexpected creative talent. Why GenAI is showing up in customer journeys, sales enablement, and day-to-day ops. How small teams are using tools like Descript, RAG, and custom GPTs to scale smartly. What it looks like when AI becomes a creative partner, not just a shortcut. Plus: How to steer clear of the GenAI “sea of sameness” Why personalization at scale is finally within reach The shift from doing more to doing better If you’re trying to move from GenAI curiosity to confident action, this one’s worth a listen. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 443: CMO Pep Talk: How to Own Your Job Search 46:11
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CMO job searches come with baggage—pressure to be perfect, high expectations from CEOs and investors, and a market where one misstep can cost you. Add in emotional residue from your last gig, and it’s no wonder the process feels heavy. In this episode, executive recruiter Erica Seidel joins Drew Neisser for a grounded pep talk on how marketing leaders can take control of the job search. It’s about being intentional—knowing what you want, how to show up, and how to manage the emotional rollercoaster along the way. What You’ll Learn: How an Ideal Company Profile (ICP) can focus your search—and your energy. The paradox-filled CMO role: changemaker, peacemaker, and how to keep it together. Smart ways to stand out—think prep docs, dashboards, and well-placed hypotheses. Why “ready to start tomorrow” might be your strongest asset. What CEOs and investors really want from you in the first 100 days. Whether you’re actively interviewing or just thinking ahead, this episode offers the mindset and tools to help you lead your search—with intention and impact. Tune in! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 442: What CMOs Get Wrong About Career Transitions 22:56
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The career mistake that haunts CMOs most? Waiting until they're laid off to build their personal brand. Career transition expert Catherine Altman Morgan reveals the three career management mistakes even seasoned CMOs make—and they might be sabotaging your future opportunities. In this quick-hitting conversation, Catherine delivers straight talk on building your personal brand, maintaining critical relationships, and positioning yourself for success whether you're job hunting or not. From market disruptions to political shifts, CMOs are feeling the pressure. CFOs are tightening budgets, customers are hesitating, and entire industries are being forced to adapt. So, what’s a savvy marketing leader to do? For the full conversation covering 'nose to the grindstone syndrome,' navigating toxic work environments, and how to product-ize yourself, visit our YouTube channel (CMO Huddles Hub) or click here: [ https://youtu.be/f9_qZKSYDbM ]. Get more insights like these by joining our free Starter program at cmohuddles.com. Until then, keep those renegade thinking caps on and strong. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 441: B2B Marketing Metrics That Speak C-Suite 51:43
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In a perfect world, every marketing dollar would be easy to track and justify. In reality, proving impact is a constant battle In this episode, Drew Neisser brings together Julie Kaplan , Michael Callahan of Salt Security , and Bindu Chellappan of Corpay to explore the metrics that matter—and how to make sure they resonate in the boardroom. In This Episode: Julie Kaplan shares why marketing-driven pipeline is the metric that truly resonates with the C-suite—and how simplifying the conversation makes it easier to prove marketing’s value to the CFO. Michael Callahan reveals why broad pipeline metrics don’t resonate with sales—and how shifting to territory-level goals helped drive alignment and better results. Bindu Chellappan expands the conversation beyond pipeline, sharing how Corpay is tackling the challenge of measuring brand awareness, retention, and upsell impact—and why long-term marketing influence is just as important as net-new pipeline. Key Takeaways: The #1 metric that makes marketing’s impact undeniable. Why marketing-influenced revenue deserves more credit—and how to make the case for it. How to align marketing with sales—without the usual friction. Why brand awareness is more measurable than you think—and how to track it. Marketing’s value isn’t simple to prove—but the right numbers get the C-suite’s attention. Tune in to learn which ones matter most. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 440: Leading in Uncertain Times 16:54
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Every ten episodes, Drew Neisser turns the mic on himself to tackle the biggest challenges facing B2B CMOs. This time, it’s all about navigating uncertainty. From market disruptions to political shifts, CMOs are feeling the pressure. CFOs are tightening budgets, customers are hesitating, and entire industries are being forced to adapt. So, what’s a savvy marketing leader to do? Key Takeaways: Go Micro: Control the controllables—starting with yourself. Build personal resilience and create a strong microculture within your team. Lead with Empathy: Uncertainty breeds anxiety. CMOs don’t need all the answers, but they do need to listen, reassure, and check in with employees, customers, and partners. Protect the Brand: The political landscape is shifting fast. Word choices on your website could impact contracts and reputation. CMOs need to guide these conversations at the C-suite level. Build a Marketing Engine That’s an Asset: In a downturn, marketing is often the first to be cut—but not if it’s seen as a growth driver that increases company valuation. 🎧 Listen now and keep your renegade thinking caps on—and strong! For more, read: “The Political Tightrope: A CMO’s Guide to Navigating DEI & ESG in Polarized Times” For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 439: Video Testimonials: Social Proof in Motion 45:31
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Buyers trust other buyers more than they trust you—that’s just reality. A great video testimonial is proof, reassurance, and persuasion all rolled into one, but that only happens if people actually see it and act on it. So how do you keep testimonials from collecting digital dust and turn them into a true sales and marketing asset? That’s exactly what Drew Neisser and Alexander Ferguson , Founder & CMO of TeraLeap , tackle in this episode. From getting customers to say “yes” to crafting stories that resonate, Alex shares the strategies that make testimonials impossible to ignore. What You’ll Learn: The biggest mistakes that keep video testimonials from delivering real results. Ways to integrate testimonials across sales, marketing, and branding. How to measure impact, track conversions, and prove value to leadership. The right timing and approach to get more customers on camera. Don’t let your best customer stories go to waste. Catch the full conversation now! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 438: Michael Watkins’ First 90 Days 52:01
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If you haven’t read The First 90 Days by Michael Watkins , what are you waiting for? This bestselling guide to leadership transitions is a must-read for any executive stepping into a new role, and it’s a staple in the CMO Huddles community. A CMO’s first 90 days will set the course—either laying the groundwork for success or paving the way for an uphill battle. Drawing on more than two decades of research, Michael Watkins joins host Drew Neisser to share essential transition strategies and reveal the critical mistakes executives make in their early days—and exactly how to avoid them. What You’ll Learn: The biggest mistakes executives make in their first 90 days—and how to sidestep them. How to address the real problems within an organization—not just the ones you're familiar with. The importance of early wins and strategies to resist the "action imperative" The critical role of shifting perspectives for achieving long-term success. The power of process leadership and how to use it to accelerate your impact. Michael also shares insights from his new book, The Six Disciplines of Strategic Thinking , and why strategy has never been more critical (stay tuned for that episode). Tune in ASAP! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 437: Positioning That Sticks: Winning Mindshare 52:29
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"These are not the droids you’re looking for." Just like Obi-Wan Kenobi used a simple phrase to shift the stormtroopers’ perception, marketers need to pull off their own Jedi mind trick to capture mindshare for their brands. We call it "positioning." In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Joe Cohen ( AXIS ), Sara Larsen ( Wolters Kluwer ), and Carlos Carvajal ( Q2 ) to discuss the art and science of positioning—how to define, refine, and defend it in a crowded marketplace. Key Discussion Points: Joe Cohen explains how AXIS built credibility in energy transition by backing its positioning with real data. Sara Larsen shares how Wolters Kluwer got internal teams on board with a major brand shift. Carlos Carvajal reveals how Q2 overcame skepticism to expand beyond its core market. What you’ll learn: ✔ How to use research to reinforce your brand’s authority. ✔ Why positioning is an internal challenge before it’s an external one. ✔ The role of analysts, customer feedback, and storytelling in shaping brand perception. From using market research to create authority to ensuring internal teams embrace new positioning, this conversation is all about the strategies that make brands stand out—and stick! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 436: Turning GenAI Possibilities into Reality 50:50
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Gen AI isn’t just a playground for creativity—it’s a tool for real business impact. But while some marketers are embracing the possibilities, others are stuck in experimentation mode without a clear strategy. So how do you go from dabbling to driving real business impact with AI? In this episode, Lisa Gately , Principal Analyst at Forrester , joins Drew Neisser to break down how CMOs can lead the charge in AI adoption, avoid common missteps, and harness Gen AI to create real business value. Lisa also shares a sneak peek into her session at Forrester’s 2025 B2B Summit , exploring how AI is reshaping marketing, sales, and customer experiences. What you’ll learn: The top mistakes marketers make when adopting Gen AI—and how to avoid them. Why Gen AI success requires change management, not just technology. How CMOs can go beyond efficiency to drive real competitive advantage with AI. Want to take your AI strategy to the next level? Tune in! CMO Huddles members also get a 10% discount to Forrester’s 2025 B2B Summit—use code CMOHUDDLES25 to save! Register here: https://www.forrester.com/event/b2b-summit-north-america/ For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 435: From Clicks to Conversions 43:40
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Clicking is easy, converting is hard—let’s fix that. In this episode, Drew Neisser teams up with Sahil Patel , CEO of Spiralyze , to take a deep dive into what makes landing pages and home pages truly effective. But this isn't just theory-Sahil gets hands-on by breaking down the CMO Huddles home page and landing page, highlighting common pitfalls and sharing actionable fixes. What you'll learn: The biggest conversion killers on landing pages-and how to fix them fast. Why home pages need both storytelling and structure to keep visitors engaged. How small design tweaks-like better CTAs, cleaner forms, and smarter layouts-can drive big results. Want to see the pages Sahil critiqued? Check the show notes on renegademarketing.com for links to the visual resources. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 434: Unleashing Brand Love at Gusto 46:33
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Would you rather get a root canal or run payroll? Most small business owners would have picked the root canal—until Gusto came along. When Jason Ing joined Gusto in 2022, the company's reputation for making payroll easy rang loud and clear. The next logical step was to transform that reputation into brand gold. In this episode, we explore the campaign that reinforced customer love while driving demand. In this episode, Jason breaks down: ✔ How Gusto turned a simple insight into a high-impact brand campaign. ✔ How brand and performance marketing work together to maximize awareness and conversions. ✔ How to drive alignment in the C-Suite to position brand as a revenue driver, not just a creative exercise. ✔ The metrics and testing strategies used to prove the business impact of brand investment. ✔ Dos and don’ts when allocating your media mix It's a must-listen for any CMO looking to turn customer love into measurable growth. Don't miss it! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 433: Marketing to Your CEO + CFO 48:51
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How do marketers bridge the gap between bold creative ambition and the hard-nosed expectations of the C-suite? In this episode, Drew Neisser chats with Kay Moffett of Amplify , Katrina Klier of Sage Strategy Group , and Lakshmi Randall to uncover how CMOs can align marketing initiatives with business priorities while proving their value to their CEOs and CFOs. In this episode: Kay Moffett reveals how Amplify’s podcast, Science of Reading, became a catalyst for a movement in education, driving product adoption and underscoring the power of long-term brand investments. Katrina Klier shares her ART framework—Awareness, Recognition, Traction—a practical model for demonstrating marketing’s impact through both leading and lagging indicators. Lakshmi Randall dives into strategies for aligning with CFO and CEO priorities, including focusing on shared goals, running strategic experiments, and balancing short-term wins with long-term initiatives. You’ll also learn: Why anecdotal insights—or “anecdata”—can be as persuasive as hard metrics when proving marketing’s value. How consistent reporting can help CMOs build trust with the C-suite. The balancing act between short-term demand gen and long-term brand-building strategies. Tune in and discover how to turn the C-suite into marketing’s biggest advocates! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 432: Master B2B Buying Mayhem 50:43
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B2B buying has never been more complicated—or more critical for marketers to master. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Dave Frankland , Forrester’s VP Research Director, for a sneak peek at Forrester’s 2025 B2B Summit and the theme of “Master Buying Mayhem.” Together, they explore the ever-evolving dynamics of buyer groups, self-service trends, and the growing influence of generative AI in the B2B landscape. In this episode: Navigating Buyer Complexity: Learn how to effectively engage the 20+ people who influence B2B buying decisions, including internal and external stakeholders. Elevating customer success: Discover how aligning promise-makers (sales) with promise-keepers (customer success) can drive loyalty and advocacy, even for unhappy customers. Transforming revenue processes: Discover how companies like Siemens and Reltio streamlined buying journeys and aligned teams for a customer-first approach. Self-serve buying journeys: Explore how the rise of self-service is reshaping traditional sales and marketing strategies—and what you can do to stay ahead. Tune in for actionable insights and frameworks that can help B2B marketers thrive amidst the chaos—and walk away ready to tame the buyer mayhem in your own organization. And if you like what you hear, make sure you register for Forrester's 2025 B2B Summit in Phoenix (March 31-April 3, 2025)! If you're a Huddler, reach out to us for a special discount code. Why you should go: Best-in-class case studies: Showcasing Return on Integration and Program of the Year award winners on the main stage Increased interactivity: Expect more roundtables and workshops than presentations, designed to foster collaboration, peer discussion, and actionable takeaways. Hands-on planning: Leave with a Plan on a Page or an assessment to identify your strengths and where to focus for improvement. Cross-functional focus: A unique opportunity to collaborate not just with marketing peers but also with sales, product, and customer success teams to align GTM strategies. One-on-one analyst sessions: Personalized insights from Forrester experts, tailored to your organization’s challenges and opportunities. Exclusive leadership exchange: Invite-only sessions for C-level executives, with opportunities to tackle strategic challenges in a private, focused environment. Vision meets practicality: Gain forward-looking insights about where B2B is headed, paired with tangible next steps to implement immediately. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 431: Don't Risk Playing It Safe: B2B Lessons from Leaders Leap 51:52
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Playing it safe might feel smart, but it’s the riskiest move of all. In this episode, Drew Neisser sits down with Steve Dennis , author of Leaders Leap , to explore the critical moments when leaders must embrace risk, drive innovation, and challenge the status quo. In this episode: What Got You Here Won’t Get You There: Why past successes might not guarantee future results, and how to adapt to a rapidly changing environment. A Slightly Better Version of Mediocre Won’t Cut It: Why incremental improvements are no longer enough and how to aim for true remarkability. Customer-Centric or Just Lip Service? The gap between saying that you’re customer-focused and actually delivering on it. You’ll also learn: How CMOs can position themselves as strategic leaders within their organizations. Why being “special, not big” can be a winning strategy in a competitive market. Practical steps for balancing long-term transformation with short-term results. Whether you’re navigating strategic pivots, championing customer-centric initiatives, or striving to build a remarkable brand, this conversation is packed with insights to help you leap with confidence into 2025 and beyond. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 430: 8 Resolutions for 2025: A Drew-on-Drew Special 14:13
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As we step into 2025, Drew Neisser takes the mic solo for a special Drew-on-Drew episode, sharing his eight resolutions for the year ahead. From personal growth to professional goals, our penguin-in-chief dives into the habits, mindset shifts, and priorities that will guide him—and hopefully inspire fellow marketers—through the year. In this episode: Resolution #1: Keep on learning – Embracing curiosity and connecting with experts to grow smarter every day. Resolution #2: Think bigger and do better – Aiming higher, taking risks, and saying yes to bold opportunities. Resolution #3: Manage time better – Prioritizing deep focus, smarter habits, and blocking time for what truly matters. Resolution #4: Invest more in partnerships – Doubling down on meaningful collaborations that drive impact. Resolution #5: Lighten up – Injecting humor and levity into everyday work and writing. Resolution #6: Stay positive – Balancing realism with optimism, even in challenging times. Resolution #7: Give back – Dedicating more time and energy to meaningful nonprofit causes. Resolution #8: Express gratitude – Recognizing and celebrating the people who make a difference. Tune in for an episode filled with thoughtful reflections, actionable takeaways, and a healthy dose of Drew’s signature wit. Here’s to a purposeful and impactful 2025! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 429: The B2B Marketing Performance Index 50:37
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When it comes to marketing metrics, what you measure—and how you measure it—can make all the difference. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by six-time CMO Grant Johnson to explore how to create marketing dashboards that go beyond vanity metrics to tell a full story of marketing’s impact. In this episode: Grant walks through his "Marketing Performance Index," a dashboard designed to measure marketing’s broader influence on pipeline health, brand strength, and market presence. Learn why too many marketers fall into the trap of tracking vanity metrics that don’t resonate with the C-suite—and how to avoid it. Discover the importance of aligning metrics with CEO and board priorities while maintaining a broader lens to capture momentum. Explore how setting baselines and tracking trends over time are critical for showing marketing’s true value. This is a sneak peek into a dashboard that doesn’t just measure what’s easy, it captures what actually matters—and elevates marketing’s voice in the C-suite. Tune in! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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How do B2B leaders successfully navigate brand transformations? In this episode, Drew Neisser explores the art and science of rebranding with three exceptional marketers—Joy Neely, Heather Salerno, and Will Meier. From reclaiming past equity to aligning brands with new business goals, this conversation reveals the key strategies behind effective brand evolution. In this episode: Joy Neely shares the bold move to bring Medvantx back to its roots, the challenges of reintroducing an old name, and how she balanced sales and marketing priorities to support a successful rebrand. Heather Salerno explains how Appcast’s rebrand evolved from a refresh to a strategic overhaul, aligning the company’s identity with its rapid growth and new offerings. Will Meier discusses building a family of brands at FM , the decision-making process behind a house-of-brands approach, and the challenges of maintaining premium positioning across diverse markets. You’ll also learn: How to involve employees in the rebranding process and ensure alignment across teams. Metrics and KPIs to track brand health and measure rebrand success. Tips for overcoming resistance and fostering organizational buy-in. Whether you’re embarking on a rebrand, refreshing your identity, or simply curious about what makes brand transformations succeed, this episode is packed with actionable insights for B2B marketers. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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1 427: No Bullsh*t Strategy: The Art of Being the Only One 49:43
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What does it mean to have a strategy? In this episode, Drew Neisser hosts Alex M. H. Smith , author of No Bullsht Strategy*, for a candid discussion on stripping away the jargon and getting to the heart of what makes a business thrive. Together, they dive into what it means to build a strategy that defines not just what your business does—but what makes it the only one of its kind. In this episode, Alex M. H. Smith explains: Why “only” is better than “best” when crafting a competitive strategy. The pitfalls of focusing solely on communication while neglecting the operational and strategic foundations of the business. The difference between strategy and positioning How to align your strategy with true customer value, ensuring it resonates in the market while setting you apart from the competition. How to identify the mistakes in your previous thinking to craft a strategy that truly moves the needle. Whether you’re building a strategy from scratch or rethinking your current approach, this episode offers invaluable insights into creating a clear, actionable plan that delivers unique value to the market. For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/…
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