Here at The VBAC Link, our mission is to make birth after Cesarean better by providing education, support, and a community of like-minded people. Welcome to our circle, we are so glad you are here!
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Join VBAC Facts® Founder and CEO Jen Kamel as she brings you evidence-based discussions about vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) including the shocking medical evidence, breathtaking birth stories, inspiring advocacy victories, and sobering legal cases. Jen and her guests will both celebrate the triumphs as well as highlight the many opportunities for improvement in our health care system. Come learn what is possible so we can work together to create a world where everyone has access to res ...
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This podcast was created to provide a community to cheer you on in your journey from VBAC hopeful to VBAC success. We are going to debunk the myths, quiet the naysayers, and equip you with everything you need for a healing, empowering birth. And positive postpartum experience. We are VBAC moms. We are fierce, go getters, women of action. You've got this, mama. And I'll be by your side, every step of the way.
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🎙️ Welcome to The Journey to VBAC, hosted by me, Petra Cruz – a passionate birth doula and proud VBA3C mom. Join me in sharing the highs, lows, and everything in between. In each episode, we will sit down and hear mom's birth stories. We'll laugh, cry, and celebrate the strength within each birth journey. I'm here to inspire, educate, and uplift you! Expect candid conversations, expert insights, and practical tips from professionals who support VBAC. Because, let's be honest, we can all bene ...
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A podcast featuring Australians sharing their journey of vaginal birth after caesarean. Through sharing and learning from each other's lived experiences the podcast is designed to empower and educate those whose VBAC journey may have just begun, help all expecting mums achieve a more natural birth if that is their intention, and better inform birth professionals about one's journey to a VBAC.
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Motherhood Flow - VBAC tips, preparing for a vaginal birth after c-section, preventing cesareans
Hannah Gill | VBAC Mom, VBAC Doula, and Childbirth Educator.
Welcome to Motherhood Flow, your go-to motherhood podcast with a good mix of VBAC preparation tips and VBAC birth stories. While I focus heavily on VBAC and prevention of unnecessary c-sections, you can bet I'll be discussing topics from preconception to birth, to mothering toddlers and navigating your relationship after children, I cover it all here. Get ready for insightful conversations, expert interviews, and personal stories. Motherhood Flow is your space to walk through birth and mothe ...
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Faithful Labor | Natural Birth, Pregnancy, Holistic, VBAC, Unmedicated
Audrey Stinson | Certified Childbirth Educator, Former RN, Mama of 4
Are you feeling overwhelmed by the uncertainty of birth decisions? Do you wish you could trust your instincts and invite Christ into your birth plan? Have you already had a highly medicalized birth and now wonder if there’s a more peace-filled, empowering way to welcome future children into the world? Are you on the fence about natural birth but aren’t sure if it’s the right path for you? In this podcast, you’ll discover God’s beautiful design for labor & delivery, gain confidence in your bi ...
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Episode 411 Felicia's CBAC + Fetal Heart Tones + When a Cesarean is REALLY Necessary
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45:52Felicia grew up with a profound trust in the power of VBAC— her mom was a midwife and had a beautiful home birth after four Cesareans! So when Felicia’s first birth ended in a Cesarean, there was no doubt in her mind that she would pursue a VBAC next time. She educated herself, built a strong support system, obsessed over all things VBAC, and went …
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E18 "I Never Thought a 20-Week Abortion Ban Would Impact Me" with Megan Kling
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1:27:11Never thought you would have an abortion? That's exactly what Wisconsin mom and maternal health advocate Megan Kling believed until she became pregnant with her third much wanted and planned child. Megan courageously shares her deeply personal story of terminating two pregnancies for medical reasons. She discusses the profound impact of abortion re…
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Episode 410 Christy's Quick VBAC After Traveling 1.5 Hrs + Logistics of VBAC Travel
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46:16Christy shares her whirlwind VBAC story after two vaginal births and a Cesarean. After testing GBS positive, Christy made the intentional decision to deliver at a hospital she deeply trusted, even though it was 1.5 hours from home. But when labor kicked in fast and hard, she barely made it in time. Her birth progressed so quickly that while she ult…
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Episode 409 Anne Marie’s VBAC + Positions for Labor and Birth
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46:11In today’s episode, Anne Marie shares her intuitive, unmedicated VBAC journey. From building a trusting relationship with her supportive OBGYN to finding peace with all possible birth outcomes, her story is a powerful reminder of the strength that comes from informed decision-making and listening to our bodies!. Anne Marie takes us through her expe…
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Episode 408 Vanessa's HBAC + Preparing for a Different Experience + Stats on Home Birth
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40:36Vanessa was born and raised in Brazil, a country with sky-high cesarean rates. Moving to the US inspired her to pursue her doula career, even before she became pregnant herself. Vanessa’s own birth experiences were very different. Her first birth was a Cesarean after a birth center transfer. While it was medically necessary, it was very unexpected …
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Episode 407 Nicole from Subtle Healing Bliss + Easy At-Home Pregnancy Techniques with Profound Effects
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49:14We are so excited to have Nicole Vandermeyen with Subtle Healing Health on the podcast today! Nicole shares how her history of childhood leukemia and awful first pregnancy and birth experience solidified her commitment to holistic health. Through subtle changes in nutrition and influence healing, her overall health improved drastically, and she now…
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E17 An Attorney's Fight to Challenge Rights Violations & Illegal Maternal Care Practices with Hermine Hayes-Klein
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1:02:56Confusion and fear over lawsuits drives health care in the US and even more so within obstetrics and midwifery. In the midst of defensive medicine as default, many clinicians miss the one decision that provides ultimate litigation protection. Hermine Hayes-Klein is single handedly changing the landscape relative to litigation within maternal health…
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Episode 406 Julie Sawaya (Co-Founder of Needed) + Prenatal Vitamins, Depletion of Nutrients & Fertility
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56:34We are so happy to have Julie Sawaya back with us on The VBAC Link Podcast today! Julie is the co-founder of Needed, a mama, and a lifelong nutrition nerd. As the most nutritionally aware of their friends, Julie and her co-founder Ryan were shocked to realize through nutrient testing that they were severely deficient in key nutrients needed for a h…
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Episode 405 Nicole’s Induced VBAC During a Hurricane + Giving Yourself Grace When Plans Change
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39:56Like the literal hurricane she labored through, Nicole’s story is one of overcoming life’s storms, giving grace, and finding joy. Nicole’s first birth was a C-section to best protect her daughter who had a low heart rate due to multiple congenital heart defects. But unfortunately after three precious years, her daughter passed. Nicole worked hard t…
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61. Maternal Ambivalence and the Power of AND with Dr. Margo Lowy, BSW, MSW, PhD
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31:44In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Margo Lowy, a psychotherapist, author, and expert in maternal mental health, for a powerful conversation about the often unspoken emotional realities of motherhood. Dr. Lowy shares what led her to explore the concept of maternal ambivalence and how naming and normalizing our full emotional experience can transform…
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E16 "Hospitals Cannot Legally Enforce VBAC Bans" and Other Juicy Advocacy Tidbits with Barbara Stratton plus Next VBAC Facts® Training, Reader Stories, & TikTok Traps
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2:15:01Want to change hospital policy, VBAC ban, placenta policy, or otherwise? Barbara Stratton is your gal. In this interview, Barbara reflects back on over 20 years of activism and shares her biggest tips to changing hospital policy as well as what first time parents wish they knew. She shares insights on speaking to the media, planning a rally, search…
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Episode 404 Lauren’s Unmedicated VBAC in an Ambulance + Preparing for VBAC
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44:30Lauren joins us today from New Jersey sharing her wild ride (literally!) to a VBAC! Lauren’s first birth was a spontaneous labor ending in a crash Cesarean under general anesthesia at 39 weeks due to fetal distress. Though she was complete and tried pushing, baby was still high and showing that he needed to be born right away. She prepared diligent…
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Episode 403 Chelsea’s HBAC + The Impact of Birth Choices on Self-Identity and Empowerment
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58:00”This VBAC has changed who I am as a woman.” Proactive preparation matters in birth!! While we don’t want to obsess about it in an unhealthy way, prep work can make a huge difference in your birth experience. Chelsea is an amazing example of how that prep pays off. After a very long, exhausting 40+hr labor and Cesarean birth, Chelsea knew she neede…
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60. Esophageal Atresia, Unexpected C-Sections, and Trusting Your Intuition with Liz Eidelman
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49:13In this episode, I’m joined by Liz Eidelman, a New Jersey mom of two, doula, and content creator with a passion for helping women take control of their birth experiences. Liz shares her journey through two very different, yet equally challenging, births—and how those experiences sparked her desire to empower others to have satisfying, informed, and…
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E15 A Psychologist's Journey Navigating a Hospital VBAC Ban with Dr. Denise Jaimes-Villanueva PsyD
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1:04:33What do you do when you are pregnant after a cesarean and the only hospital in your community has a VBAC ban? Come hear the story of Dr. Denise Jaimes-Villanueva PsyD of Santa Barbara, California as she shares everything she endured to avoid compulsory surgery. From the challenges around finding a provider in a community where the influence of the …
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I have previously said that I would love to have a homebirth after cesarean (HBAC) if I had a third baby. Well, I've changed my mind and I'll go over why in this episode. I am an advocate for choice and informed consent. I believe everyone has a right to weigh the risks and benefits and decide what type of birth is best for them. Whether that be a …
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Episode 402 Andrea’s Healing VBAC + EMDR + Finding a Supportive Provider
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49:03Andrea joins us in the podcast today from Kansas City! She is a mom of two and a pediatric oncology nurse. Andrea shares how her experience as a nurse impacted both of her very different births. After her traumatic Cesarean, Andrea knew how critically important it would be to find healing inside and out before giving birth again. Andrea sought EMDR…
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88.How to Mentally Prepare for the Birth You Actually Want (Even After Trauma)
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25:44This conversation with Misty Rauscher was 🔥 She is a Trauma Recovery Coach and Transformational Life Coach. Misty specializes in mindset, visualization, and helping people navigate the mental “what ifs” that often come up after difficult or traumatic birth experiences. In this episode, we explore how Misty helps people “clear the slate” from previo…
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Episode 401 Trish Ware From The Birth Experience (Labor Nurse Mama) + L&D Nurse Stories
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45:24Trish Ware is the Labor Nurse Mama! As a high-risk labor and delivery nurse for 16 years and mom of 7, she has helped deliver thousands of babies and seen it all. Trish founded The Birth Experience to help empower women through birth education. Her true passion lies in teaching families how to make informed choices. You will NOT want to miss this b…
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Text Hannah! First 3 Steps to VBAC Guide: https://www.thehannahgill.com/firststeps Quiz - Is Your Provider VBAC Supportive?: https://thehannahgill.com/quiz Doula VBAC and Repeat Cesarean Guide: https://www.thehannahgill.com/newdoulatipsPar Hannah Gill | VBAC Mom, VBAC Doula, and Childbirth Educator.
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E14 An OB Scientist's Caution on the VBAC Calculator and Informed Consent with Dr. Nicholas Rubashkin MD PhD
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1:14:38Ever use the VBAC calculator? Then you will want to listen to physician scientist and VBAC calculator researcher Dr. Nicholas Rubashkin, MD, PhD, an Associate Professor at UC San Francisco, as he reviews the historical and cultural implications of the VBAC calculator, a tool used to predict vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) odds. The conversation…
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Episode 400 Reflecting of 400 Episodes of The VBAC Link Podcast.-
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17:01We are celebrating a HUGE milestone over here: 400 episodes of The VBAC Link Podcast! Beginning as a phonecall in Target from Julie Francom to Meagan Heaton in 2018, The VBAC Link Podcast now has over 1.3 million episode downloads, guests from all over the world, a management and production team, parent and doula education courses, a thriving socia…
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Episode 399 Katelyn's VBA2C After a Forceps Attempt Ending in a Cesarean
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59:14Katelyn is a mother of three beautiful daughters with three entirely different birth stories. Her first birth was a Cesarean after three forceps attempts, her second was a scheduled repeat Cesarean, and her third was a long, tough labor ending in a successful VBA2C! Katelyn talks about making sacrifices to switch providers, spirituality, prodromal …
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Episode 398 Rameika’s Unmedicated VBAC + Should You Hire a Doula?
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33:07“The wound can become a gift.” After a traumatic and long birth that ended in a C-section, Ramieka did extensive research on providers in the central California area to find the most supportive option, and was willing to travel for that support. She utilized pelvic floor therapy, chiropractic, and a VBAC Link Certified doula to achieve a redemptive…
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17. Suffering In Birth & Motherhood is NEVER Wasted: A Journey of Healing & Hope with Olivia Wilcox
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51:08📌 Episode Summary: Y'all you are IN for a treat with today's interview. I'm telling ya, you do not want to miss the encouragement & wisdom laced throughout this episode! Today you'll hear as my sweet friend Olivia (from @thenotsoangrymom over on Instagram) shares her powerful journey through motherhood—from navigating very different birth experienc…
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Episode 397 Dr. Jen's VBAC After Failure to Progress + Pelvic Floor Breathing & Pushing
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54:03Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband,…
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E13 Why This OB/GYN Passionately Supports VBAC Access (And You Should Too) with Dr. Chris Stroud
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1:16:28Heard no one supports VBAC? Simply not true. Join Dr. Chris Stroud OB/GYN of Fort Wayne, Indiana has he considers his 30 year career and shares why offering VBAC is so important to him, including his reasoning for supporting community midwives who attend home and birth center VBAC. We discuss the concept of "acceptable complications," which may pro…
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Episode 396 Darby From Birth By Design + Birth Language + Postpartum Prep + Beyond Birth
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51:33Darby Swan is a faith-based birth doula and the owner of Boundless Grace Birth Services in Central Kentucky. With a passion for supporting expectant families, she provides evidence-based information and nurturing care throughout the pregnancy and birth journey. As the host of the podcast "Birth By Design," Darby shares valuable insights and experie…
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Episode 395 Shannon's Induced VBAC With Preeclampsia & Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome + Big Baby + Failure to Progress
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40:26From a very unexpected pregnancy to navigating a challenging first birth experience, Shannon joins us today to share the steps she took to achieve a successful VBAC. Shannon describes pregnancy with Ehlers–Danlos Syndrome and insufficient glandular tissue (IGT). She was able to seek support and get the proper progesterone supplementation with her s…
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Episode 394 Zoei Returns + Close Duration + Pitocin-Induced Twin VBAC
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45:06In this episode, Meagan welcomes Zoei back to share her inspiring VBAC story with twins! Zoei’s first birth was a Cesarean followed by a VBAC with a singleton pregnancy. Her first two birth experiences gave her the confidence to advocate for her VBAC with twins. Her four babies were all born within four years. Zoei talks about how she was able to c…
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16. A Dad's Perspective Featuring My Husband: Transitioning From A Passive Bystander to An Active Birth Partner
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50:32In this episode, I sit down with my husband, Hunter, to talk about his journey from being a passive observer to an active, faith-filled support partner in our birth experiences. Together, we share how his understanding of natural birth has evolved over the years, the ways he grew through education and experience, and why it’s so important for fathe…
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Episode 393 Jill's VBAC With Twins + The Facts About Twin VBAC
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25:52We are celebrating the week of TWINS by revisiting Jill’s beautiful twin VBAC story from 2019. This episode is packed with valuable statistics about VBAC and twin pregnancies. Jill’s first birth was a C-section due to failure to progress. Her second was a hospital VBAC at 39+5 over the course of 4 days with a very patient and supportive provider. W…
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E12 Jen Kamel's interview on All Things Women's Health with Dr. Chris Stroud
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1:16:29Why does VBAC access matter and how does the concept of "acceptable risk" influence how some physicians view cesarean versus VBAC complications? Learn that and more when VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel is interviewed on "All Things Women's Health" with Dr. Chris Stroud. She will share the impact of her births on her life, what it was like to experien…
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15. The Top 3 Nuggets I Share About MOST Often With Natural Birth - Curious Moms
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20:47In today’s episode, we’re diving into the top three things that seem to come up all the time when I chat with curious moms about natural birth. Whether you’re just starting to consider a natural birth or you’re already on board and looking for encouragement, I hope you enjoy these little must-know tidbits that I just can’t help but talk about! I'll…
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Episode 392 Sophia's VBAC + VBAC Prep + What You Need to Know
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46:37In this episode, Julie welcomes Sophia from Mexico City, who shares her mental, physical, and spiritual journey towards achieving her VBAC. Sophia discusses the challenges she faced in navigating the healthcare system in Mexico, and what she did to find a truly VBAC-supportive provider. While preparing for her VBAC, Sophia had a hard time finding w…
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57: Doula Support During C-Sections
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10:43In this episode, I'm going over the role doulas play in supporting clients through both planned and unplanned c-sections. Many people believe that once a c-section is decided on (whether planned or unplanned), a doula is no longer needed. That is absolutely untrue. Doula support is extremely beneficial in all birth scenarios. Text Hannah! First 3 S…
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Episode 391 Molly Returns Sharing Her Post-date Induced VBAC + Co-Host Allison + The Emotions of Birth
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39:52Molly joined us for Episode 84 talking about her unexpected breech Cesarean and first VBAC story. Today, she returns sharing her second VBAC story! Molly shares her powerful journey through loss, IVF, selecting her powerhouse birth team, preparing for different outcomes, post-dates, a multiple-day induction, a beautiful delivery (where her husband …
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Episode 390 Johanna's HBAC + PROM + Supportive Provider + Postpartum Planning
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56:15Johanna is a girl mama joining us today from Canada. She had an unplanned C-section with her first, an HBAC with her second, and was pregnant with her third at the time of recording! Johanna reflects on her experiences with both supportive and unsupportive care during her pregnancies. Meagan and Johanna dive into your options surrounding PROM, the …
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Episode 389 Kristin from Ask the Doulas Podcast + VBAC Prep + Assembling Your Dream Team of Experts
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52:39In this special episode, Kristin, host of Ask the Doulas podcast and founder of Gold Coast Doulas, gives tips on building your supportive birth team. Kristin and Meagan talk specifics on HOW to switch providers if you’re feeling the push to do so. Once we have our dream team, we’re good and don’t have to do any more work, right? Nope! We keep educa…
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56: How to Choose the Best Hospital for Your VBAC and Best Maternity Care Hospitals with Dr. Jennifer Winston from U.S. News & World Report
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20:44In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer Winston, Health Data Scientist at U.S. News & World Report, to discuss the powerful data behind the rankings of the Best Hospitals for Maternity Care and Maternity Care Access Hospitals. Here's what you'll learn: What defines a Best Hospital for Maternity Care and a Maternity Care Access Hospital, and …
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87. International Cesarean Awareness Network, who they are and how they can help you on your VBAC journey
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11:41I have the pleasure of welcoming the International Cesarean Awareness Network (ICAN) to share the incredible work they do for VBAC hopefuls and cesarean awareness. Highlights from this episode: 🔥 What the International Cesarean Awareness Network (ICAN) is and why it matters for VBAC hopefuls 🔥 How ICAN supports women in advocating for their birth c…
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E11 A Community’s 10 Year Fight Against a Hospital VBAC Ban with Anastasia Stone
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1:00:23What do you do when your local hospital bans vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) and leads people to believe that their only option there is a repeat cesarean? What about when they start to withhold pain relief to anyone who "insists" on laboring after a cesarean? When this happened in Santa Barbara, California, local activists and mothers took act…
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14. Wanting A Natural Birth? Here Are The Top 5 Things You Can Do To Avoid An Epidural (Mini-Series Part 3B)
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17:31If you’re hoping for an unmedicated birth and want to avoid an epidural, this episode is for you! Whether you’re newly pregnant, preparing for your first natural birth, or looking for a different experience after a medicated birth, I’m walking you through five essential steps to help you labor naturally with confidence as you forgo using the most c…
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In today’s episode, I'm diving into a key consideration for VBAC planning...the timing and spacing between your c-section and VBAC. If you’re planning a VBAC then understanding the spacing between births can make a big difference. I go over ACOG guidelines but also give some personal insight into the topic and remind you to trust your gut and intui…
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Episode 388 Liz's HBAC After an Unexpected Cesarean Following a Late Hypertension Diagnosis
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1:05:32Liz, a mama of two from Long Island, New York, joins us today sharing her experience with preeclampsia, an unexpected C-section, and her successful VBAC with her second. Liz had a perfect health history and never had any surgeries before her C-section. It was so frustrating to feel so out of control. In between her birth and her second pregnancy, L…
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Episode 387 VBAC Q&A With Dr. Nicole Rankins + Preeclampsia, Scar Thickness, and More
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45:28Meagan welcomes Dr. Nicole Calloway Rankins, a board-certified OB/GYN, to discuss everything related to pregnancy, childbirth, and the VBAC experience. With over 23 years of experience and more than 1,000 deliveries, Dr. Rankins shares her insights on common questions and concerns from expectant mothers. From the importance of mindset during labor …
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13. Wanting a Natural Birth? Here Are The Top 5 Things You Can Do to Avoid an Epidural (Mini Series Part 3A)
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22:35If you’re hoping for an unmedicated birth and want to avoid an epidural, this episode is for you! Whether you’re newly pregnant, preparing for your first natural birth, or looking for a different experience after a medicated birth, I’m walking you through five essential steps to help you labor naturally with confidence as you forgo using the most c…
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86. Why I stayed silent in birth and how I finally spoke up and took my power back!
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23:22Have you ever felt like staying quiet was easier? That if you just “went with the flow,” everything would work out? I used to believe that too. From my childhood to my first three births, I stayed small, trusting others over myself. But when I found my voice, everything changed—especially in my VBA3C journey. In this episode, I’m sharing a deeply p…
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Episode 386 Dr. Stu & Midwife Blyss Answer Your Questions + VBAC Prep & Uterine Rupture (REBROADCAST)
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57:39Originally aired in June 2019 as our 73rd episode, we still often think back to this amazing first conversation we had with Dr. Stuart Fischbein and Midwife Blyss Young! Now, almost 6 years later, the information is just as relevant and impactful as it was then. This episode was a Q&A from our Facebook followers and touches on topics like statistic…
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54: Pelvic floor exercise after c-section and to prepare for VBAC with Dr. Jessica London, PT, DPT, PCES
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42:59In today's episode I dive deep into pelvic floor PT with Dr. Jessica London, PT, DPT, PCES. I also hear a bit about her birth stories (unplanned c-section and HBAC). Here’s what you can expect: How Jessica's first birth experience shaped the decision for a second homebirth, and the mental preparation involved. Differences in preparing for a VBAC at…
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