Join award-winning and best-selling fiction authors Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch, and Sian Ann Bessey as they gather around the figurative kitchen table to talk and laugh about books, writing, and life. Between the Lines: a podcast for readers and writers
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This is a podcast for the wounded, the misfits, and the spiritual refugees to let you know you are not alone. We're here to cultivate love and hope in the wilderness. We believe the story of God is bigger, wider, more inclusive and welcoming, filled with more love, than we could ever imagine. There's room here for everyone. There's room here for you.
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45-minute conversations and investigations with today's leading thinkers, authors, experts, doctors, healers, scientists about life's biggest questions: Why do we do what we do? How can we come to know and love ourselves better? How can we come together to heal and build a better world?
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Do you ever look at successful people and get stuck in their highlight reel? We then look at our own mess ups and feel alone, broken and not cut out for the job. Hosted by founder and social entrepreneur Liz Bohannon, Plucking Up is a podcast that talks about failures beyond the platitudes and how celebrated authors, entrepreneurs, artists and leaders in their own field moved past mistakes and wrong turns, in order to build lives of purpose, passion and impact. Each week, Liz shares uninhibi ...
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Reclaiming My Theology is a podcast and community taking our theology back from ideas and systems that oppress. My name is Brandi Miller, some of you know me as @brandinico in online spaces. For over a decade, I have been exploring, unlearing, and reimagining my faith outside of systemic oppression and want to bring you along with me! Each season of the podcast will be a deep dive into a form of systemic oppression and ask how the values of oppressive ideas shape our hearts, minds, politics, ...
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A space to continue the healing, solidarity, and reimagination of Pastors, Priests and Guides.
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Sinner Saint Sister is a Christian podcast that dives into whatever we might be feeling that day through a soulful interview with a thoughtful guest. I hope you hear something that lets you know you are loved and helps you love one another.
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CBF Church Starts Conversations provide a platform for sharing best practices, practical lessons, and harness community. The call to start a new church is quite astonishing and can often be intimidating. Discerning what that looks like, where that will take place, and how that unfolds can be equally challenging. Therefore, nurturing and fostering a sense of call is a vital component in the journey of potential church starters. This is where CBF New Church Start Initiative wants to exist. We ...
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The Upper Limit Problem (Katie Hendricks, PhD)
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“The whole sense though, of the Upper Limit Problem, is instead of feeling good and then feeling bad, which is how we think it's supposed to work. You know, you feel bad, you feel good, and then you forget to go to your yoga class and then you start eating things that aren't good for you. And pretty soon, you know, you're off binging and you know, …
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Molly Stillman on the Art of Redefining Success
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My friendship with my guest today started when we first collaborated on each other's podcasts. And now she's back on the show - our first guest to make a return! Molly Stillman is a leader in the blogging and content worlds for sustainable fashion. She's the host of the Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder podcast. Pre order her new book, 'If I Don't Laugh…
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P90X Founder on the Shadow Side of Success
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Have you tried the extremely popular, P90X Workout? If you haven't, I'm sure you've heard of it and how pathbreaking it was in the wellness world. My guest today is the founder of P90X, Tony Horton. Tony talks to me about his hurdles growing up, trying out acting and the entertainment business and ultimately finding wild success in the P90X plan. B…
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Why We Overthink (Amanda Montell)
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“Those of us growing up in consumerist society, when confronted with a problem, our tendency is to add a whole bunch of cumbersome variables to the equation. So, if we're experiencing pain in our relationship, I'll speak for myself, every time we were really, really suffering and not doing well. It did not occur to me once to break up. I was like, …
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What is voice, and do I have it?
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Send us a Text Message. One of the most important aspects of writing is "voice" but what is it? On this episode, the hosts will talk about the elusive definition of what voice is in regard to writing and how it can impact an author gaining the attention of agents, publishers, and readers.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Being Better Leaders (Jerry Colonna)
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“Human beings trigger other human beings, right? My teacher and friend, Parker Palmer, likes to say, riffing on Socrates, "the unexamined life may not be worth living," but if you choose to live an unexamined life, please don't take a job that involves other people, right? And in classic Midwestern Wisconsin brilliance, Parker's got it, I mean, bec…
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Amy Orr Ewing on How to Lead in the Face of Opposition
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My guest today, Amy Orr Ewing, is an author, speaker and theologian. Through her books and talks, she strives to help Christians understand their spiritual purposes and meaning in life. Amy speaks to me about leading with courage and wisdom for women especially in their midlives. We get open about our faith and how it has helped us despite the stru…
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Staying with Discomfort (Thomas Hübl)
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“Many of us needed to suppress anger. And what you feel in your throat is an intelligent mechanism to suppress the intensity because it threatened the belonging, most probably the original family. And so when we say, oh, it's not that I cannot experience my anger, it was intelligent to suppress it at certain moments in my development or my life, to…
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...Purity Culture: Season Finale Q and A pt. 1 (w/ Erna Kim Hackett)
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This episode part one of a two part Q and A session as we close out this series on purity culture. In this part, we discuss questions about attraction, sexual exploration, what the point of marriage and sex are, some questions about asexuality and the myriad of things that dovetail between. Next episode, we will talk about dating while older, paren…
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BONUS Game: Let the Storymatic stories continue
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Send us a Text Message. In this month's bonus game episode, Sarah takes us back to one of her favorite games: Storymatic. Join along as the hosts have to come up with a story premise on the spot with only three elements to start with.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Joey Odom on How To Not Let Technology Control Your Family Time
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Many times our passion and purpose is found through our pluck-ups. No one represents that better than my guest today, Joey Odom. Joey is the co-founder of Aro, a company striving to reduce screen-time for family members to spend more time together. We talk about faith and the need to not let technology control us in today's times. It's a very impor…
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Really Hearing Our Own Voices (Carol Gilligan): GROWING UP
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“What I became aware of when I started writing about resistance, and I thought, the healthy body resists infection. We have an immune system. And the healthy psyche resists a culture that's going to infect us psychologically, that's going to keep us from basically being able to function psychologically. And what I realized is that there is, I mean,…
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Finding Shadow in the Body (Thomas Hübl)
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“I often ask, ‘so how beautiful are you when you need something?’ I call this the beauty of needs. And it's amazing how many of us don't feel beautiful at all when we need something. Like all kinds of other things come up: I'm needy, I feel ashamed, I feel young, I feel afraid, I feel whatever, I feel ugly. Sometimes a hundred people raise their ha…
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Am I lovable? A take on characters
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Send us a Text Message. We all have characters we love, but what makes them so memorable. On this episode, our hosts will dive into the how they connect with their characters and help readers to do the same.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Reality Check with Entrepreneurial Couples
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Today is a special episode! For those who may not know, my husband, Ben, and I had started a company together called, Sseko Designs. In today's episode, we both chat with the founders of Bivo, a water bottle company, Carina Hamel and Robby Ringer, a married couple as well. We chat about the struggles of working together as a couple to start and mai…
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Signs of High Intuition (Carissa Schumacher): GROWING UP
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“When you have a feeling, you can recognize when it's a feeling, when it's a knowing, a lot of knowers, especially automatic channel writers, are like, did I write this? Was I channeling? Did Mary Magdalene write that, you know, where is this coming from? And so they do have the tendency, knowers, to really second guess themselves some of the time …
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The Life-Saving Power of Friendship (Mark Nepo)
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“The real meaning of ‘remember’ is to put the members back together, to make whole. So a lot of times we go back in time to a special time or a special moment and nostalgia is wanting to go back there, as if there's something there that we lost. And the true value of memory is to touch that moment and see where it lives or is dormant in me or you n…
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Sarah Bessey on Ambition and Quarter-Turn Pivots
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Hey Pluckies! This might be the first time we've had someone from my first season return to the show! Sarah Bessey is back! If you haven't heard our first episode with her, please do check it out. She's a prolific, a New York Times bestselling author of several books including, 'Jesus Feminist' and 'Field Notes for the Wilderness: Practices for an …
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The Long-Term Implications of Sleep (Harvey Karp, M.D.): GROWING UP
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“I remember a wonderful psychologist was talking about, we shouldn't, should on ourselves. Don't should on yourself. And it's all of what I should do. And there's a big lie for new moms, which is that when the baby is born, you should take care of the baby. You're the best person. You're the mother. There's no one else who's going to take care of y…
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The Deconstruction of Belief (Sarah Bessey)
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“One of the things about practices that I love is this notion of it's not perfect. I haven't got it mastered, just by the very word, it's implied that I'm working it into my life and out of my life and through my life, almost like in my mind, I'm picturing like a woman who's like kneading it into bread dough. And so then there's the room. There's r…
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Audiobooks! with guest Nancy Peterson
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Send us a Text Message. Have you ever wondered how audiobooks get made? This episode features audiobook narrator Nancy Peterson, who shares the ins and outs of what it takes to record a book and even shares some of her favorite accents.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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John Inazu on How to Navigate Differences
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Most of us don't have extremely unique or off-the-beat vocational paths. We are usually taking the traditional route. But how do we find our own unique voices and creativity while taking a traditional path in our careers? My guest today, John Inazu, is a lawyer whose taken his career to new heights using his voice and experience. John teaches us ho…
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The Critical Need for Deep Connection (Niobe Way, PhD): GROWING UP
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“You can't be independent if you're not deeply connected. So what happens to a child that's not deeply connected? What actually happens? Guess what happens? They don't feel the confidence to be able to take risks. They don't feel the confidence to go out and be self-sufficient. They don't feel the confidence in doing it. So we're actually backbitin…
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The Table Stakes of Good Relationships (Stan Tatkin)
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“Our anger is “I'm angry because something happened that I feel was unjust or unfair” And if it continues, then I want my justice and you know, our injustices from childhood turn out to be society's burdens because I want payback here, even though you had nothing to do with it. So, hate and love go together because they're both strongly bonding con…
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Ally Fallon on How to Define Success For Yourself
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Can our side hustles become our means to success? Why do we let society define what success is? My guest today, Allison Fallon is a bestselling author and founder of Find Your Voice, a community helping anyone who wants to write a book through workshops and coaching. Ally was passionate about writing and helping others write. Ally talks about manag…
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Hi, It’s Elise, host of Pulling the Thread. Starting next Monday, I’m doing another special series—this one is about growing up, and no, it’s definitely not just for parents. It’s mostly about re-parenting, or understanding the driving factors of how we all come to understand the world. You’ll hear from four very different voices about childhood, s…
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Understanding Your Energy (Prune Harris)
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“So when we think about this, what is the aura? Many people have an idea of the aura as something that is around you and a lovely bubble or sphere of energy. Maybe you've seen pictures of an egg shape, but what's really important to understand about the aura is that it comes from inside you and it's only as strong as your vitality. So you can think…
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I don't know, what do you want to do?
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Send us a Text Message. How decisive are you? It took the four of us over two hours to decide what to wear for a recent book signing. We may need help...Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Caroline Chambers on Being VERY CHALANT When Pursuing Dreams
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My guest today has the largest and most popular cooking substack, 'What to Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking,' Caroline Chambers! Even if you're not into cooking and baking, this episode is still for you. Especially because Caroline talks about being careful and cautious when diving into your dream careers. This episode felt like I was talking …
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Where the Brain and Mind Meet (Karl Deisseroth, M.D., PhD)
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“What optogenetics does is it's an engine of discovery. It helps us identify what matters, what's causing things to happen in the brain. And we know now the cells and the connections make these powerful motivations and drives manifest. That opens the door to any kind of new treatment, right? If you know the cells, then you can look at the DNA and t…
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Lara Love Hardin on How Shame Heals in Community
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This is an extremely deep, a rollercoaster-of-an episode! And I truly encourage you to buckle up for it. Lara Love Hardin is a 4-time New York Times-bestselling author and Founder of her True Literacy, a literary agency. She's partnered with Oprah Winfrey and the Dalai Lama for her work. Lara speaks about her addiction, secrecy and heartbreak - and…
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To Transcend and Include (Ken Wilber)
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“All growing up stages are the product of scientific investigation of the stages of growing up that people go through. And those are all defined in third person terms because they're the person or thing being spoken about. When we talk about the archaic stage or the magic stage or the mythic stage, if you look within right now, you can't see any of…
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Send us a Text Message. Do authors remember everything they wrote? In this episode, our share how sometimes a simple question from a reader can be much more complex than anticipated.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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James Pearson on What to Do When Passion and Purpose Elude You
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Have you ever made or thought about making a big change in your life? It felt like a leap of faith - a big risk? Or maybe you are trying to follow your heart, but aren't sure about the decision made? Well then - this episode is definitely for you! My guest and dear friend, James Pearson, is a poet and author. But the fact of the matter is - he didn…
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Working with the Divine (Nicole Avant)
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“I really think that the past, we can go back to it and we definitely learn lessons because I'm always a hindsight person. So in hindsight, I'm always thinking that, okay, what could I have done better? But the past experiences for me, I've learned as I've gotten older, is to grab the lesson. And hopefully there's a blessing in there too. And then …
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Conor Lewis on Why to Persevere Despite Failing Constantly
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Hello Pluckies! I'm sure you're used to stories of people struggling and facing failures to eventually succeed. I mean we certainly have a bunch of them on Plucking Up as well - failing or 'plucking up' is important for our growth. But my guest today, Conor Lewis, tells us why it's important even though you may not find the success you hoped. Conor…
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Recovering Our Ability to Feel (Prentis Hemphill): TRAUMA
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“I think we need each other. I say this all the time, there are some things that are too big to feel in one body. You need a collective body to move them through. And I think that's what we need. We need to come together in spaces to heal, not just to consume together or to watch a movie together, but to feel together and to have human emotion in r…
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The Myth of Resilience (Soraya Chemaly)
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“This is the richness of the traditional wife explosion, right? There's this simple idea that you get to choose. Now you're choosing to emulate a situation that's a fiction in that those women didn't choose anything. They had to dress like that. They had to live like that. They had to be nice to the men like that, because they had no bank accounts.…
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Send us a Text Message. It's a fifth-Wednesday game episode, and Sarah has another goofy game up her sleeve. Join in, play along, and see if you're any better at it than the Between the Lines ladies are!Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Ruth Simons on Why the 'Right Now' Matters
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Hey Pluckies! Season 8 has begun! We kick off this new season with my wonderful guest and friend, Ruth Simons. Ruth is a such a powerful reminder to all of us freedom we experience when we share our stories with each other. She speaks to me openly about embracing motherhood while also continuing to chase her dreams. And most importantly, she shares…
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Finding Fear in the Body (Resmaa Menakem): TRAUMA
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“Here's what I would say: peace will happen when people invest in cultivating peace as opposed to war. Peace will happen. And one thing I know, for me, I know peace, I know I will never see it, but maybe I can put something in place to where I leave something here and my children's, children's, children's grandchildren can nibble off of and feed on…
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Hey Pluckies! We're back! There's so much to catch you all of up on. We have a new season with more inspiring stories, amazing guests and of course pluck-ups we can learn from. The season launches next Tuesday, May 28th! In this season, we will chat with authors, celebrities, thought leaders and entrepreneurs from all walks of life. This season we …
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Take Back Your Brain (Kara Loewentheil)
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“There are studies showing that, once your basic needs are met, and you're not worried about losing your house, losing your health care, increases in money don't significantly increase happiness, right? So I think, you know, money helps alleviate the very real biological primitive fear of you're gonna die if you don't have shelter and food and in o…
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...From Purity Culture: TradWives w/ Allison Sanders
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In this episode, Brandi is joined by Allison Sanders to talk about tradwives. They dive into the history of this broader idea and the ways that it reinforces the binaries, roles, and expectations that build what we know of as purity culture. If you like what you hear you can subscribe, rate, review, or tell others about the show. You can help make …
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Send us a Text Message. From publishing a first book to reaching professional milestones, in this episode we discuss how we measure success in this crazy world of publishing.Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Where Trauma Begins (Peter Levine, Ph.D): TRAUMA
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“There are therapies where the person is made to relive their traumas over and over and over again. It's called flooding. And that's the one type of therapy that I do not agree with. I think it, not all the time, but it can be harmful, again, in somatic experiencing, we titrate the experience, we touch into a sensation in our bodies that have to do…
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Choosing Wholeness Over Wokeness (Africa Brooke)
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“In writing my book, I wanted to bring it back to the self because being online allows us to have this inappropriate level of audacity. And I think audacity is a very beautiful thing, but it gets so inappropriate online where you can go into Elise's messages and say, “by the way, I saw you liked this, you should be liking this, prove yourself to me…
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A Toolkit for Working with Your Trauma (James Gordon, M.D.): TRAUMA
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“Now the tragedy, in one sense is a tragedy, that often people only become open when they've suffered horribly when that is both the tragedy of trauma, but also the promise. It's one thing to be trauma informed. It's another thing to inform our experience of trauma with some kind of courage and some kind of hopefulness for profound change. That's w…
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The Complexity of Weight Loss Drugs (Johann Hari)
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“I realized I think there's a few things that are in our heads that are so deep in the culture. One of them is the idea that being overweight is a sin. It goes right back to if you look at Pope Gregory I in the 6th century when he first formulates the seven deadly sins, gluttony is there, it's always depicted with some fat person who looks monstrou…
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Send us a Text Message. All the Between the Lines ladies write books with romance, swoony love stories, and ample romantic awkwardness. Are they drawing from real life? In today's episode, Sarah digs into the ladies' real-life love stories!Par Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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