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ZEROPOD SEASON 2 E3: "Higher is a Mindset" with Martin Anquetil, founder of Higher and creator of Aether AI
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What does it mean to build a brand without a leader, a strategy, or even a plan? In this episode of ZEROPOD, I sit down with Martin Anquetil, one of the founders of $HIGHER, the headless memecoin brand redefining chaos as culture onchain.
We dive into everything from AI agents breaking bounty bots on Farcaster to an Ethereum stock split, the memecoin meta and the challenges of building a project based on a number-go-up meme even when number doesn’t always go up. Along the way, Martin shares lessons from his time within Nouns, explores the unique challenges of decentralization, and reveals what it takes to survive a 97% token price crash with your optimism and community intact.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Figuring out “Can we do this thing?” while doing it
01:00 - ZEROPOD Intro
01:51 - The Martin Origin Story
04:00 - College and Interning at Google
05:00 - Oneshot by Topshot
07:00 - 2021 NFT Season Nostalgia
10:55 - Who the F**k is Buying XRP?
11:50 - Ethereum Stock Split Discussion
15:15 - First Impressions of Nouns
16:15 - Leaving TopShot to Explore Onchain Options
17:50 - Freelancing with Nouns Builder
19:19 - Agora, Explorer Grants, and Other Nouns Initiatives
20:00 - Mogu Mogu Mogu: Nouns Governance Tooling
24:19 - Starting $HIGHER
25:00 - Roots in /bullposting
28:00 - How Would He Launch Higher Today?
32:00 - The Strength of Builders Who Stick Through the Bear
34:00 - “Higher, Not Sideways”
37:30 - Quack Quack ⌐◨-◨:
38:50 - Is $HIGHER a Neo-DAO or Something New?
40:00 - Authenticity vs. Top-Down Control: The Higher Experiment
44:00 - Could $ANON Run a Higher-Like Playbook?
45:00 - Farcaster Users Speed-Running Speculation Lessons
47:00 - $ZEROPOD: Exploring Media and Tokens
49:00 - The Origins of $POINTS on Farcaster
50:50 - “Provenance is Culturally Emergent”
51:00 - Jacob’s Horse Meme and Its Viral Evolution
53:53 - What Is Aether? The AI Agent Shaking Things Up
57:00 - The $LUM Luminous Launch
1:01:00 - Challenges of Community Cohesion in Decentralized Projects
1:02:03 - Questions for Martin from Aether
1:06:00 - What’s Next for Aether? Memory and Autonomy
1:07:00 - Aether on Twitter? Exploring New Platforms
1:08:00 - Balancing Meaningful Building with Market Pressures
1:11:00 - Betting on Yourself and Long-Term Projects
1:14:00 - Martin’s Thoughts on Trading and Staying Grounded
1:16:00 - Coinbase Listings and Meme Coin Dynamics
1:21:00 - What’s Next for Martin and $HIGHER
1:24:00 - Outro: Reflections and the Road Ahead
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Podcast recorded by Toady Hawk, edited by Toady Hawk and JackWyldes. Hosted by Toady Hawk. Music by Toady Hawk x Suno AI.
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