LW - Funny Anecdote of Eliezer From His Sister by Daniel Birnbaum

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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Funny Anecdote of Eliezer From His Sister, published by Daniel Birnbaum on April 22, 2024 on LessWrong. This comes from a podcast called 18Forty, of which the main demographic of Orthodox Jews. Eliezer's sister (Hannah) came on and talked about her Sheva Brachos, which is essentially the marriage ceremony in Orthodox Judaism. People here have likely not seen it, and I thought it was quite funny, so here it is: https://18forty.org/podcast/channah-cohen-the-crisis-of-experience/ David Bashevkin: So I want to shift now and I want to talk about something that full disclosure, we recorded this once before and you had major hesitation for obvious reasons. It's very sensitive what we're going to talk about right now, but really for something much broader, not just because it's a sensitive personal subject, but I think your hesitation has to do with what does this have to do with the subject at hand? And I hope that becomes clear, but one of the things that has always absolutely fascinated me about you and really increased my respect for you exponentially, is that you have dedicated much of your life and the folks of your research on relationships and particularly the crisis of experience in how people find and cultivate relationships. And your personal background on this subject to me really provides a lot of contexts of how I see you speaking. I'm mentioning this for two reasons. Your maiden name is? Channah Cohen: Yudkowsky. David Bashevkin: Yudkowsky. And many of our listeners, though not all of our listeners will recognize your last name. Your older brother is world famous. It's fair to say, world famous researcher in artificial intelligence. He runs a blog that I don't know if they're still posting on it was called LessWrong. He wrote like a massive gazillion page fan fiction of Harry Potter. Your brother is Eliezer Yudkowsky. Channah Cohen: Yes. David Bashevkin: You shared with me one really beautiful anecdote about Eliezer that I insist on sharing because it's so sweet. He spoke at your sheva brachos. Channah Cohen: Yes. David Bashevkin: And I would not think it was not think that Eliezer Yudkowsky would be the best sheva brachos speaker, but it was the most lovely thing that he said. What did Eliezer Yudkowsky say at your sheva brachos? Channah Cohen: Yeah, it's a great story because it was mind-blowingly surprising at the time. And it is, I think the only thing that anyone said at a sheva brachos that I actually remember, he got up at the first sheva brachos and he said, when you die after 120 years, you're going to go up to shamayim [this means heaven] and Hakadosh Baruch Hu [this means God]. And again, he used these phrases PART 3 OF 4 ENDS [01:18:04] Channah Cohen: Yeah. Hakadosh Baruch Hu will stand the man and the woman in front of him and he will go through a whole list of all the arguments you ever had together, and he will tell you who was actually right in each one of those arguments. And at the end he'll take a tally, and whoever was right more often wins the marriage. And then everyone kind of chuckled and Ellie said, "And if you don't believe that, then don't act like it's true." David Bashevkin: What a profound… If you don't believe that, then don't act like it's true. Don't spend your entire marriage and relationship hoping that you're going to win the test to win the marriage. What a brilliant Channah Cohen: What a great piece of advice. David Bashevkin: What a brilliant presentation. I never would've guessed that Eliezer Yudkowsky would enter into my sheva brachos wedding lineup, but that is quite beautiful and I can't thank you enough for sharing that. Thanks for listening. To help us out with The Nonlinear Library or to learn more, please visit nonlinear.org