Mic Flip: Hear from Cody and Kealan with Guest Hosts David Wills and Todd Harper (Ep. 100)

The Finish Line Podcast

In this special 100th episode, the shoe is on the other foot as Kealan and Cody are interviewed by Todd Harper, co-founder of Generous Giving, and David Wills, President Emeritus of the National Christian Foundation (NCF). Together, Kealan and Cody share about their family and faith backgrounds, how they got started on their journeys of generosity, and some of the amazing things they’ve learned along the way.

The interviews conducted over the last 99 episodes have been life-changing for the Hobelmann brothers in many ways by providing opportunities for “spiritual templating,” implementing what they’ve learned from others into their own generosity strategies, and by facilitating connection between like-minded Believers.

Major topics include:

• What life looks like now for Cody and Kealan
• The inspiration for the Finish Line Pledge
• How setting Financial Finish Lines has changed both of their lives
• The evolution of the Finish Line Podcast
• Making the Finish Line Pledge relational
• Most memorable podcast moments
• The many ways they have seen God work through the podcast

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

Cody: It kinda felt like I was walking up a staircase that I could not see the end of. It just continued up into the clouds. But when I set a financial finish line, suddenly I could see the top of the staircase, and I realized I was most of the way up it in terms of the course of my career.

Kealan: I appreciate so much more now the true breadth and diversity of expressions of generosity.

Cody: We realized that God’s up to something that we didn’t even notice. We had no idea. It really humbled me and helped me to understand that even though it’s a lot to ask of our guests and our wives to carve out this time once a week, once every other week, and do the editing and all that kind of stuff. It is such an honor to be able to do this and we hope to be able to do this for a very long time.

Kealan: At this point, I don’t ever say for myself or for anybody else, “this is how generosity has to be expressed,” or “this way is how God intends it.” There is too much range of expression that God gives us for anybody to say “it has to be this way.”

Cody: I’ve learned that giving is a lot of fun and it’s a relational thing. As a financial planner and as someone who was not giving or living generously, it seemed like a transactional thing. But I’m starting to understand that it’s far more complex than that and far mor joy-creating for everyone involved.

Cody: I’m learning that generosity and giving are not the same thing. Giving is an expression of generosity, but when done in community as a relational thing, there’s nothing better and it’s become my favorite use of money.

Kealan: I just want constant stories and relationships to help me grow as a Believer and not just in generosity. We’ve grown in prayer and community and so many other areas that are all interrelated to generosity.
LINKS FROM THE SHOW

• Cody Hobelmann, Shifting to Eternal Kingdom Building (see our past interview here)
• Kealan Hobelmann, Answering “How Much Money Do I Really Need?” (see our past interview here)
• Journey to Generosity (JoG) with Generous Giving (see our interviews with cofounder, Todd Harper and CEO, April Chapman)
• National Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills)
• Crazy Love by Francis Chan
• Compound Impact
• Doulos Partners (see our interview with CEO David Johnson)
• MacLellan Foundation (see our interview with Director of Generosity, John Cortines)
• ROI Ministry (see our interview with founder, Tim Barker)
• Jimmy Seibert, Pastor, On Sensing the Spirit through Spontaneous Generosity (see our past interview)
• Faith Comes by Hearing (see our interview with VP Morgan Jackson)
• Neverthirst (see our interview with CEO Matt Letourneau)
• Richard Baxter, DMD, On Leveraging His Entire Dental Practice to Bring the Gospel to Unreached People Groups (see our past interview here)
• Aaron and Miran Cho, Committing to Give More Than You Can Budget For (see our past interview here)
• Andy Dewitt on the Importance of Sharing Your Generosity Story (see our past interview here)
• Eternal Perspective Ministries (see our interview with founder, Randy Alcorn)
• The Finishing Fund (see our interview with founder Doug Cobb)
• IllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut)
• Kingdom Advisors (see our interview with founder, Ron Blue)
• Faith Driven Investor Podcast
• Faith Driven Entrepreneur Podcast
• Generosity Now Podcast
• Celebration Conference with Generous Giving
• The Finish Line Community Facebook Group
• The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

1 Corinthians 12:6 | God Empowered Action

And there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.

Proverbs 11:24 MSG | Generosity and Abundance

The world of the generous gets larger and larger; the world of the stingy gets smaller and smaller.

Proverbs 30: 8b | Our Daily Bread

give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with the food that is needful for me,
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