Season 3 Episode 9: Outgrowing Neverland

Terrified Nation

Have you ever had that moment when you realized—oh wow, I’m responsible for myself now? It’s exciting, but let’s be honest, it’s also terrifying. Growing up means stepping into responsibility, and sometimes, we resist it. But what if the United States is at that very moment right now?

In today’s episode, host Debilyn Molineaux explores the idea of America’s growing pains. Are we clinging to an outdated version of independence—one that prioritizes self-interest over shared well-being? Or are we ready to step into a more mature, interdependent future?

We dig deep into what it means to transition from independence to interdependence, both personally and as a nation. Debilyn shares a personal story about her own moment of stepping into adulthood, and we draw parallels between individual growth and the evolution of societies.

And then, there’s Peter Pan. Yep, we’re talking about Neverland—the place where no one grows up. Could it be that America is caught in its own version of Neverland, reluctant to embrace the responsibility that comes with maturity?

This episode is an invitation to reflect on where we stand as a country. Is it time to move beyond a toddler-like sense of freedom—'I do what I want, when I want'—toward something richer, deeper, and ultimately more sustainable?

Join us for this thought-provoking conversation. And if you want to dig even further into this topic, check out the full blog post here: Is America stuck in Neverland?

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