VYS0030 | To Believe Or Not To Believe - Vayse To Face With Emily Louise Vayse podcast

VYS0030 | To Believe or Not to Believe - Vayse to Face with Emily Louise - Show Notes

Possibly the weirdest thing that Vayse could do at this point is to interview someone who doesn't believe in any of this phenomena at all, someone whose no-nonsense approach to searching for the actual facts behind well-known events in fringe history and UFOlogy has earned her Youtube channel tens of thousands of subscribers - it's British documentary maker and researcher Emily Louise.

Hine and Buckley find an unexpected amount of common ground with Emily as they discuss her journey from wide-eyed belief to pragmatic scepticism, what it is that makes human beings sometimes believe ideas that are provably untrue, which famous conspiracy theories Emily thinks probably do have truth to them and Vayse finally tackles (with the help of a hardened sceptic) the recent David Grusch revelations... (Recorded 17 August 2023)

Thanks to Emily for putting up with our weird shit and thanks as always to Keith for the show notes.

Emily Louise - Links

Emily on Twitter
Emily on Instagram
Emily on YouTube
Emily’s Patreon
Emily’s Ko-Fi

Introduction - links

Luiz Elizondo and Related Links

Luiz Elizondo - Wikipedia page
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) - Wikipedia page
To the Stars (company) - Wikipedia page
Tom DeLonge - Wikipedia page

The Montauk Project and related links

Montauk Project - Wikipedia page
Montauk Air Force Station - Wikipedia page
The Montauk Project : The REAL Story Behind Netflix's Stranger Things - Weird Reads with Emily Louise
Stranger Things - Wikipedia page
The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time (book) - Wikipedia page
The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time by Preston B Nichols and Peter Moon

MKUltra - links

MKUltra - Wikipedia page
List of 149 MKULTRA Subprojects - Illuminati Rex website
Operation Midnight Climax: The Sub-Project of MKUltra You Didn’t Know About - Grunge article

Alternative 3 - Links

Alternative 3 - Wikipedia page
ALTERNATIVE 3 (1977)
Alternative 3: How a Hoax Documentary Created a Conspiracy Cult - Weird Reads with Emily Louise

Emily’s background - related links

Emily’s switch from believer to sceptic - Links

Mirage Men (documentary film) - Wikipedia page
Mark Pilkington (writer) - Wikipedia page
Private investigator - Wikipedia page
Dogma - Wikipedia page
Alien abduction - Wikipedia page
List of urban legends (Modern folklore) - Wikipedia page
Religious experience - Wikipedia page
Ufology - Wikipedia page
David Grusch UFO whistleblower claims - Wikipedia page
Lie - Wikipedia page

US congressional hearings on UFOs - Links

Why are conspiracy theory topics so popular? - Related Links

Emily’s weird experiences - related links

Unidentified flying object - Wikipedia page
Area 51 - Wikipedia page
Ghost - Wikipedia page
Stargate Project - Wikipedia page
Remote viewing - Wikipedia page
Occult - Wikipedia page

The Human Element - Related Links

Psychology - Wikipedia page
10 Supposed Secret Space Programs - Listverse article
Alternative 3: How a Hoax Documentary Created a Conspiracy Cult - Weird Reads with Emily Louise
Alternate Reality Game (ARG) - Wikipedia page

Consequences, empathy, and changing minds - related links

Corey Goode - website
David Willcox - website
Mirage Men (documentary film) - Wikipedia page
Mirage Men: A Journey into Disinformation, Paranoia and UFOs by Mark Pilkington
Mark Pilkington (writer) - Wikipedia page
Debunker - Wikipedia page
The Cult of I AM: The WILD Story of Guy and Edna Ballard's New Age Religious Movement - Weird reads with Emily Louise

Rabbit holes - related links

Women in the Paranormal - Unexplained Mysteries article
Mick West - Wikipedia page
Is women's interest in people over things biological or cultural?, Reddit thread - beware anyone telling you anything on this subject

Emily’s recommendations - links

Mirage Men: A Journey into Disinformation, Paranoia and UFOs by Mark Pilkington
The Greys Have Been Framed by Jack Brewer - Goodreads page
The Greys Have Been Framed by Jack Brewer
Saucers, Spooks, and Kooks by Adam Gorightly - Goodreads page
Saucers, Spooks, and Kooks by Adam Gorightly
Getting Spooked substack - by Tanner F. Boyle
Expanding Frontiers - YouTube Channel
The Controllers by Martin Cannon - Goodreads page
The Controllers: Mind Control and Project MK-ULTRA - Modern Myth, Mass Manipulation, and a New Hypothesis of Abductions
Truth Seekers - YouTube channel

Vayse - Links

Vayse website
Vayse on Twitter
Vayse on Instagram
Music From Vayse - Volume 1 by Polypores
Vayse on Ko-Fi
Vayse email: vayseinfo@gmail.com

Special Guest: Emily Louise.