The Bird & The Bear - Session 75 - "Young Black Bears"

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On this week’s session of The Bird & The Bear … Sammy and Daryl breakdown the problem with white rappers … This conversation being based on two YouTube videos by F.D Signifier, ‘Eminem and the White Rapper Problem’ and ‘The REAL greatest white rapper of all time’ … Let’s sort through it together

(0:00) - Sammy and Daryl jump right into this session’s discussion on white rappers - “Basically, you cannot stop the inexorable advance of white colonialism on any culture”

(6:00) - The problems with gatekeeping art - “So if you expect me to follow your formula, youre dated and youre wrong”

(15:48) - The early history of white rappers in Hip-Hop - “My personal theory on how you get a Rappin’ Rodney…”

(23:24) - Snow’s ‘Informant,’ Jim Carey’s time on the TV show ‘In Living Color,’ and the white Hip-Hop group, Young Black Teenagers - “Speaking of white people in black spaces…”

(35:33) - Arsenio Hall questioning Vanilla Ice about his presence in Hip-Hop - “I won’t lie, my mind drifted off for just a second because I was thinking about, ‘I really wonder what the Young Black Teenagers are doing now?’”

(43:37) - Eminem’s influence on white rappers - “I’m more so pointing to the trends that he set for white rappers going forward … It stagnated white rappers because they just thought they either needed to be an edge lord or rap really fast on the beat”

(56:36) - Rock-Rap and comparing the impact of Limp Bizkit versus Linkin Park - “If you get down to the roots of it, your taking two black art forms and just mashing them together and on it’s face value; that can work”

(1:06:08) - The rise of Nerdcore in Hip-Hop - “That’s why you can’t say that like Nerdcore and white kids rappin’ about white s**t is not at its core Hip-Hop”

(1:10:55) - The short lived rap career of John Cena - “But one thing that all this reminds me of is that at one time the WWE had this tag team group called, ‘Crime Tyme’”

(1:15:50) - Lil Dicky and the experience Sammy and Daryl had at one of his concerts - “I though it was really f**king stupid how he started the show with the national anthem”

(1:20:32) - The negative effects Macklemore has had on the Seattle Hip-Hop scene - “He made us lose a lot of credibility…”

(1:25:41) - Mac Miller’s Legacy and why Eminem probably listens to Joe Rogan - “But I think he was on his way to be a GOAT, and his sudden death left his legacy at more of a respectable legend level”

(1:30:36) - Why El-P is the greatest white rapper of all time - “Adult Swim was low key one of the most influential segments on TV…”

(1:36:36) - Sammy and Daryl close out the show with their final thoughts on white rappers and the future of Hip-Hop - “Also, notice how we didn’t even touch on Kid Rock…”