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DaQuane Cherry was once the kid who wore a hoodie to hide skin flare-ups in school. Now he’s an artist and advocate helping others feel seen. He reflects on his psoriasis journey, the power of small joys, and why loving yourself first isn’t a cliché—it’s essential. Plus, a deep dive into the history of La Roche-Posay’s legendary spring. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…

Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

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The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

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Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

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202 episodes

#MBA #Business #Bob Stapleton And Joyce WilsonSanford #Bob Stapleton #And Joyce WilsonSanford #Human Resources #Organizational Development #Leadership #Csuite #Executive

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Episode 200: Episode 200 – Time to Reflect, Celebrate, and Appreciate 15:43

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Today marks a major milestone—our 200th episode! For over four years, we’ve shown up every Tuesday morning, come rain or shine. This ritual has been our anchor, carrying us through both the highs and the lows. Lately, we’ve been talking a lot about finding an “island of sanity” in turbulent times. In many ways, this podcast has been ours—a space to think, laugh, question, and reconnect. Here’s what we’re all about: • Raw honesty and deep curiosity • Stories that spark fresh thinking • Celebrating competence and being fully alive • Humor that helps lighten the load Today, we raise a toast—to our steadfastness, our friendship, and to you, our listeners. Your support makes all of this possible. So for the 200th time… come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!…

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Episode 199: Thriving in Chaos: It's Happening to All of Us 18:46

il y a environ 19 jours18:46

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In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce dive into what it takes for organizations to stay grounded when chaos and uncertainty are no longer the exception—they’re the backdrop. As global and local challenges intensify, leaders face a new mandate: create environments where people can stay resilient, think creatively, and feel safe enough to perform at their best. We explore: Why taking a systems view helps leaders intervene with clarity and intention The anchors—rituals, values, and human connection—that steady teams in turbulent times How real-time agility beats long-term planning in a world that won’t sit still This is a practical, hopeful conversation about leading with heart and strategy when the world gets wobbly. Grab a snack and come on in—welcome.…

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Episode 198: Michelle Griffin Ph.D.: Building a Business and a Life That Works 48:00

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In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Michelle Griffin, CEO and founder of Griffin Resources—an entrepreneur who truly has the "right stuff." Whether you're a seasoned business owner or just starting out, Michelle’s story is a masterclass in growing a thriving business without sacrificing your life. Michelle brings a rare blend of strategic insight and human-centered leadership. She sees the big picture, acts with precision, and knows how to create results—without burning out. Here’s what you’ll hear in this episode: • How adaptability—and knowing when to pivot—fuels long-term success • Why passion and vision are the heartbeat of every great business • Strategy is key, but hiring the right team is what makes it real • How being introverted can be a superpower in leadership and connecting • Michelle’s gift for turning bold ideas into sustainable business models • Working full throttle and making room for balance, joy, and play It’s a conversation full of insight, energy, and the kind of honesty that makes you reflect. Get ready to be inspired by Michelle’s journey. About Michelle Griffin Ph.D. Michelle is the CEO and founder of Griffin Resources, a firm providing fractional HR support to small and mid-sized companies—both domestic and multinational. She’s PHR and SHRM-CP certified, an industrial-organizational psychologist, and a sought-after speaker. Her expertise spans the full spectrum of HR, from compliance and payroll to M&A, entity creation, and talent strategy.…

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Episode 197: 🎙 Resiliency Face-Off, Part 2: Spoiler—Ours Wins 32:46

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In this second part of our resiliency deep dive, Bob ‘n Joyce take a close look at MIT Sloan’s latest take on what makes a culture truly resilient. Do we agree with their insights? Mostly. But spoiler alert: we still like our list better. We break down the key conditions MIT Sloan says drive resiliency and stack them up against our lived experience in the trenches of culture work. The result? A thoughtful, and at times feisty, side-by-side review. Here’s a taste of what they recommend: • Flexible work schedules that actually work • Skill-based approaches to culture change (not more slogans) • Turning skeptics into champions • Learning from mistakes—really • Letting employees shape their own roles • Prioritizing honesty and psychological safety We wrap with a call to action: What’s your resiliency playbook? Come on in, grab a snack, and let’s keep it real.…

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Episode 196: The Resilience Face-Off: Street Smarts Meets Sloan MIT Smarts 19:52

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In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dive into how to create and sustain organizational resiliency—a must-have competency in today’s fast-changing business world. We kick things off with a little game we call “learning.” First, we share our personal and professional takes on what makes a workplace truly resilient. Then, in the next episode, we’ll check in with the experts at MIT Sloan Management Review to see how our perspectives stack up. Some of the ideas we unpack today: • Getting real about the challenge • Community – We are ‘in this’ together • Focusing on excellence and winning • Embracing risk—and yes, learning from failure So grab a snack, pull up a chair, and join the conversation. And hey, we’d love to hear your take on resiliency too.…

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Episode 195: Flugidity Revisited: Why We’re Still Talking About Structure vs. Flexibility Back by popular demand… or maybe just our own curiosity. 11:34

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After we hit “stop” on our last episode, Tight Ship or Jazz Band?, we realized the conversation wasn’t over. The tension between discipline and flexibility kept tugging at us — and stirred up a few stories (and laughs) we hadn’t yet shared. So we’re back, diving deeper into the power and pitfalls of routine, the magic of improvisation, and why finding that balance matters more than ever in today’s workplace. In this follow-up episode, Bob ‘n Joyce: • Unpack why some habits feel safe but may be limiting innovation • Talk about real-life moments when “flugidity” made all the difference • Explore how leaders can create cultures that flex without falling apart • Challenge listeners to reexamine what structure they’re clinging to — and why Whether you’re running a tight ship or playing in a jazz band, this encore conversation is for anyone trying to lead with more ease, creativity, and courage.…

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Episode 194: Tight Ship or Jazz Band? Finding Balance in Today’s Workplace 25:15

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Bob ‘n Joyce riff on how much structure is too much — and when it’s time to improvise. In this episode, they dive into the ongoing tug-of-war between discipline and flexibility — habits that create stability vs. the adaptability that sparks innovation. Once upon a time, businesses prized routine, rituals, and predictability. But in today’s fast-moving world, research suggests agility and openness may be even more crucial. So, which is it? The truth may lie somewhere in the messy, magical middle. In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce: • Coin a new word: flugidity – the courage to challenge routines that no longer serve the business • Reveal how rigid habits and SOPs can create dangerous blind spots • Explore what’s changed in the workplace to shift the balance toward flexibility • Talk about the magic of mastering your craft and dancing in the moment If your weekly ritual includes tuning in to us — well, that’s one habit we fully support. So grab a snack, get comfy, and let’s jump in.…

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Episode 193: Beyond Ping Pong Tables: How to Build a Culture of Care 18:05

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In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore what it really takes to create a workplace where people thrive — and it’s a lot more than free snacks and ping pong tables. They dive into the idea of on-site wellness centers, where employees can unplug, recharge, and access real support. Imagine a workplace that offers: ✅ Manicures and massage therapy ✅ On-site counseling for burnout or stress ✅ Flu and COVID shots without leaving the office ✅ Yoga, dance, and meditation sessions Bob ‘n Joyce make the case that this isn’t a far-out fantasy. Companies like SAS Institute in Cary, NC, have been doing it for over 40 years — and it’s a big reason they consistently rank among the best places to work in America. Tune in for fresh ideas on how your company can move beyond surface perks and start building a true culture of care. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!…

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Episode 192: The Chosen Few: A Talent Strategy That’s Holding You Back 22:22

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In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the common practice of relying on the same group of people—time and again—to get important work done. Joyce calls them the “spoiled brats,” while Bob refers to them as the “usual suspects” or “chosen ones.” The problem? This habit unintentionally sidelines the talent in waiting—the wild cards and up-and-comers—who miss out on critical development opportunities. We dive into practical ways to tap the full potential of your organization by broadening access to special projects and growth experiences beyond the usual favorites. In this episode: • Eye-opening stories about the surprising success of newbies and wild cards • A breakdown of a common flaw in talent planning that keeps this pattern alive • Why hands-on project work often beats traditional training for impact If your company is stuck picking from the same short list—and it's holding you back—this episode is your wake-up call. So pull up a chair, grab your favorite snack, and let’s shake things up together.…

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Episode 191: Creating Islands of Sanity in the Chaos – Part 2 29:53

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In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce pick up where they left off in episode 185, diving deeper into how leaders can navigate turbulent and unsettling times with intention and heart. The key? Leaders must first ground themselves before engaging in conversations about what the business needs to move forward. But how do you get grounded? Where do you start, and with whom? And how can leaders truly support their teams—not just to survive, but to thrive? Here are a few hints to guide the discussion: • Start by scanning the environment before jumping into action. • Never underestimate the power of a meaningful conversation. • Speak the truth—sugarcoating doesn’t soothe, truth does. • Counter exhaustion by encouraging play and nurturing the system. Like episode 185, there are no neat bows here—just real, practical ideas to chew on. So come on in. Grab a soothing snack or beverage. Welcome!…

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Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human 40:46

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In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo. He’s worn a lot of hats—OD consultant, c-suite exec, academic, serial entrepreneur—and somehow manages to still be one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from decades in the trenches—leading people-first cultural overhauls for companies with tens of thousands of employees, while also launching his own ventures and guest lecturing at a top-tier business school. We dig into the ideas behind his new book, Regrowth – How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People's Potential, and trust us: this isn’t your typical corporate jargon. Ernesto drops practical, sometimes surprising insights that can help any organization—or individual—get unstuck and thrive. This convo is full of stories, laughter, and that rare mix of head and heart. You’ll hear how Ernesto helped shift cultures inside massive companies, why unlocking human potential isn’t just HR’s job, and how his journey from Mexico to MIT continues to shape his work and life. So grab a coffee. Maybe a snack. And come hang out with us—you’ll leave this one with a full brain and a full heart. 🎧 Listen in and learn: • Why most culture change efforts fall flat—and how to do it differently • What it really means to lead through ambiguity • How to move from stuck to thriving (yes, it’s possible) • Why Ernesto believes in “regrowth,” not just “growth” ✨ Connect with Ernesto: •Website : aspenmindset1.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-gómez-arzapalo-8783ab43/…

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Episode 189: Letting Employees Go – Do It Right or Pay the Price 16:36

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In this episode, Bob and Joyce explore the critical importance of handling employee terminations the right way. When done poorly, these moments don’t just affect the individuals involved—they send shockwaves through the entire organization, damaging culture and trust. The conversation is sparked by the troubling trend of mass layoffs via impersonal emails, as seen recently in the U.S. government. With such cold, transactional approaches becoming more common, are we at risk of normalizing workplace incivility? While layoffs and terminations are sometimes necessary due to business demands, how they’re handled speaks volumes about an organization's values and leadership. This is where HR and OD professionals must step up to ensure fairness, dignity, and alignment with company culture. Grab a snack and join us as we dive into this crucial conversation.…

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Episode 188: OD Challenge: Who Do We Choose to Be? 16:37

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In this episode, Bob and Joyce reflect on the evolving role of HR and OD amidst today’s profound global disruptions. Drawing inspiration from Meg Wheatley—author and organizational wellness expert—we explore the concept of creating islands of sanity in a world where many feel isolated, ignored, or overwhelmed. We discuss practical ways to build strong, sustainable work communities that foster possibility, even in the face of chaos and negativity. About Meg Wheatley’s Book, Who Do We Choose to Be? “This book is born of my desire to summon leaders in this time of profound disruption—to reclaim leadership as a noble profession that cultivates possibility and humanness in the midst of fear and turmoil.” The work ahead is not for the faint of heart, but you’re not alone. As your OD partners, we’ll be with you every step of the way. So come on in, grab a snack, and let’s dive in. Welcome!…

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Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion 48:04

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In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce welcome Dr. Rob Lion, a strategist, professor, and expert in workplace culture, leadership development, and performance improvement. With a passion for helping students, business leaders, and HR/OD practitioners grow and thrive, Rob blends academic rigor with real-world experience to create sustainable, high-performance practices. His consultancy, Black River Performance Management, is built on the philosophy that success comes from applying proven models and strategies—what he calls his tools. As he puts it, “Where science meets practice.” Join us as Dr. Rob shares insights from 20+ years of experience—what’s worked, what hasn’t, and how organizations can cultivate thriving workplace cultures. Come on in, grab a snack, and enjoy the conversation! About Dr. Rob Lion Dr. Rob Lion is a seasoned expert in human resource development and organizational behavior. As a professor at Idaho State University, he has mentored the next generation of leaders while consulting with executives, business owners, and community leaders to build people-centric, high-performing organizations. Through Black River Performance Management, Rob helps organizations enhance leadership effectiveness, optimize team performance, and tackle complex workplace challenges. His evidence-based, psychology-driven approach ensures measurable, lasting results. Interested in how Dr. Rob can support your organization? Get in touch: 🔗 blackriverpm.com/contact…

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Episode 186: Brace for Impact: How to Survive Workplace Change 19:32

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