A weekly podcast helping churches think strategically about communications, social media, branding, design, websites, and more. Produced by Fishhook, a full-service church communications agency based in Indianapolis, working with churches and Christ-centered non-profits around the country.
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The podcast about nothing but our egos.
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Oklahoma Attorneys Colleen McCarty and Leslie Briggs dig deep into Oklahoma’s criminal legal system, telling true stories you won’t believe—and exposing the legal realities of a system that sends more people to prison than almost anywhere in the world. This so called “victim centered system” often leaves victims of violence to fend for themselves, then punishes them when they do just that.
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S2:E11 Vigilante Sh!t
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The music in this episode is “Let it Burn,” by Oliver / Aberson. Find the notes and documents referenced in the episode at https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/season-2-operation-wildfire/episode-11 This is the finale of Season Two – we discuss the different measures of justice each survivor got in the courts and we ask: is it enough? _______________…
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In this episode, Colleen and Leslie interview one of Jim’s survivors who has never spoken to anyone about the incident (aside from the police and her mother) in thirty years. The music in this episode is “I Can’t Make you Love me,” by Combsy. You can find the documents and pictures that support this episode at https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/sea…
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The song in this week's episode is "Surefire," by Wilderado. You can access the show notes at https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/season-2-operation-wildfire/episode-9 S2:E9 WILDFIRE follows the story of one of Jim's survivors as she tries to hold him accountable in the court of public opinion. She was told by the Sapulpa police that they would not …
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S2:E8 Ask the Experts
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This week's episode is a break from the heavy story telling to ask the experts. Our expert panel features: Ashley Nix, Assistant District Attorney and Director of the Special Victim's Unit at the Tulsa County DA's Office Xavier Graves, Executive Director of the Restorative Justice Institute of Oklahoma Detective Amy Hall, Supervisor Family Violence…
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S2:E7 Didn’t Think It Could Get Worse
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The song in this episode is Nightmares by Keyland. Documents and Resources for this episode are available here: https://panic-button-episode-7-show-notes.tiiny.co Episode 7 “Didn’t Think It Could Get Worse” follows the survivors of Jim Luman after their breakups. Nails in your driveway? DHS showing up at your house? A professional complaint filed o…
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S2:E6 Plenty of Fishhooks in the Sea
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Panic Button, Season 2 Episode 6: Plenty of Fishhooks in the Sea The music in this episode is Wicked Games by Desi and Cody. Show notes and resources are available at https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/season-2-operation-wildfire/episode-6 Most true crime stories are about one of two things: solving a mystery, or learning about how you can avoid be…
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S2:E5 Bloody Red Flags
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The song featured in this episode is Street Light by Branjae. Season 2, episode 5 of Panic Button brings us face to face with the red flags in Jim’s relationships. Bringing dates to a graveyard? Talking about leaving your fiancé in a field to get eaten by animals? Following fetish accounts on Instagram? Going through your girlfriend’s phone? These …
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BONUS: Forrest Smith Speaks
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Our first bonus episode this season features an interview with Forrest Smith. Forrest ran for sheriff of Pawnee County in 2010. He hired Jim Luman, the subject of this podcast, to help him with his campaign. Forrest opens up about his experiences with Jim and the aftermath of a separate assault against a woman named Brandi. Forrest also speaks abou…
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S2:E4 Not Hard to Fall In Love
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The song played in this episode is "Getaway" by Bandelier. To access pictures, maps, and other sources, click here: https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/season-2-operation-wildfire/episode-4 Welcome to the newest episode of Panic Button: Operation Wildfire. This is Episode 4: Not Hard to Fall in Love. Last week, we told you about Jim's professional l…
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We’re back with Season Two of Panic Button. This Season is called Operation Wildfire. If the monster who hurt you was still out there? How far would you go to warn others? And what would you do if the justice system was no longer on your side? You can find links to pictures, documents and all our sources at https://www.panicbuttonpodcast.com/season…
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Season two, Episode two: Mafia Meat. In this episode, we go on a quest through Jim's childhood and his hometown to see if we can learn anything from his somewhat murky early life. We want to understand what turns a man into a prolific violent abuser. And what, if anything, can stop him? The song you heard toward the end of the episode is Cleveland …
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Serial Somethin’: Jim grew up to be a serial entrepreneur, have serial marriages and engage in a serial pattern of prolific abuse. Often using our courts as a tool to carry out that abuse. Jim's professional, and personal life are part of what makes him interesting and enigmatic for the women who go on to love and then eventually leave him. He's a …
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The team at Panic Button has been hard at work producing Season 2 of the podcast. Here's a one minute promo to get you excited for the Season 2 release on June 27th, 2023!Par Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice
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Leslie and Colleen give a short update on April's case, the efforts in Oklahoma to bring justice to survivors, and the activities happening in Oklahoma next week to support HB 1639, a bill that will help people who were victims of domestic violence at the time of their crime get sentencing relief. ______ TRANSCRIPTION SPEAKERS Colleen McCarty, Lesl…
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BONUS: Panic Button LIVE September 24th
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On September 24th, 2022, Panic Button hosts Colleen McCarty and Leslie Briggs were featured on a live panel with domestic violence expert Molly Bryant, and #freeaprilwilkens advocate Amanda Ross. Amanda is April Wilkens's niece. The panel was moderated by local indigenous activist Apollonia Piña. The panel was hosted by the Center for Public Secret…
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On the final episode of Season 1, Panic Button hosts discuss the verdict. Listeners will hear from a juror what the focus of jury deliberations was, and how they came to decide April was guilty. Listeners will also hear what happened on appeal and where April's case stands now. If you want to follow our efforts to change the laws in Oklahoma to all…
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S1:E11 The True Experts
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On the last episode, we heard about how April's expert witness at trial, Dr. John Call, was not truly an expert in Battered Womens' Syndrome. So, on this episode we wanted to hear from some real experts about domestic violence, how the research has changed since April's trial, and the biggest issues with John Call's testimony. We welcome two expert…
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S1:E10 The Dr. John Call Disaster
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This week's episode we talk through the second part of the defense's case in April Wilkens' murder trial. We look at what the prosecution had to prove to overcome April's claim of self defense, and the difference between traditional self defense and the defense of Battered Womens' Syndrome. April's attorney called an expert witness to explain to th…
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S1:E9 Manipulating the Truth
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This week's episode we talk through the first part of the defense's case in April Wilkens' murder trial. April testified in her own defense for three days about how she was pushed to a breaking point after over two years of horrific abuse. Coupled with a total apathy on the part of the police, April felt the only choice she had was to defend her li…
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S1:E8 The Other Murder
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Before we get to the defense case, we wanted listeners to hear the story of some suppressed evidence in the case. In October of 1997, Terry's nephew lived in Kansas City and was in an on-again-off-again relationship with a girl named Anastasia. Anastasia was found shot on the morning of October 23rd, 1997 in a cemetery. When Terry heard about Anast…
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S1:E7 Ninja in the Night - Part 2
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We discuss the most detrimental witnesses put on by the state in April Wilkens' murder trial. First, Officer Laura Fadem who responded to the 911 call is intentionally evasive on the stand. Then, Terry's best friend Robert Martin shows that Terry was lying to everyone in his life about his drug use and his abuse of April. Robert casts doubt that Ap…
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S1:E6 Ninja in the Night - Part 1
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The State begins to present its evidence in April Wilkens' first-degree murder trial. In the Spring of 1999, April was absolutely convinced that the jury would acquit her after hearing her evidence of abuse, especially after hearing the testimony from the SANE nurse that proved she had been raped the night of the shooting. She was sure they would c…
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S1:E5 Wading Through The Jury Pool
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When April goes to trial for first-degree murder in April of 1999, over half of the potential jurors in the initial pool had suffered from--or perpetrated--domestic violence. Leslie and Colleen wade through the pool to get a feel for what the community was like that would be judging April's guilt. ____________________________________ Resources: To …
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In this episode, we hear about the confession, the arrest, the SANE exam, and the year April spent in jail in pre-trial detention. Even though she was presumed innocent, she was required to stay in jail on no bond due to the seriousness of her charge. We also hear about the politics playing out at the Tulsa County District Attorney's Office in the …
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In the ongoing nightmare of April and Terry's relationship, the event that catapults them into pure chaos starts on the night of December 6th, 1997. April has been staying away from Terry, but ends up going to his house to ask for the money he owes her. His place is wrecked and he doesn't look so good. What happens next launches Terry and April int…
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S1:E2 Small Town Girl Living in a Violent World
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In this episode we go back in time to 1980's Kellyville, Oklahoma where April grew up. Then we follow her to the car lot where she met Terry. We will hear the tape that April recorded of a fight between she and Terry after their trip to Italy. On the trip he beat her threatened to and throw her out of their hotel room naked, only to be caught by on…
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Terry Carlton is found shot dead in his basement in Tulsa, Oklahoma. When the police arrive, his long-time on-again-off-again fiance, April Wilkens, answers the door. "I shot him, he's in the basement," she says. But this wasn't exactly an open and shut case. Terry had raped April mere hours before the shooting. It was while he was violating her th…
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We’re telling the story of April and Terry’s relationship, the murder, the mistakes at trial, and we’re covering the evidence the jury never got to hear. This season on Panic Button.Par Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice
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A short ad for our new true-crime-advocacy podcast, Panic Button: The April Wilkens Case. Listen along as we tell April’s story, uncover evidence never heard at trial, and try to bring April home after 25 years in prison.Par Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice
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Attorneys Leslie Briggs and Colleen McCarty discuss what to expect on this season of Panic Button.Par Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice
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Introducing: Making Church Work
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We're excited to be launching a brand new Fishhook podcast. We’re also in the middle of a global pandemic, which makes it feel a little bit odd to celebrate something like a new podcast. We've been dreaming about this new podcast for a while, but just like you have been doing for the last few weeks, we’ve changed our strategy for this podcast and c…
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Does your team have little phrases or quips that have become part of your everyday language? Short sentences that encapsulate some of the wit and wisdom you've gathered over the years? In this series, we are sharing the church comm "Wit and wisdom" Fishhook has gathered over the years. These short, encouraging phrases are meant to encourage, inspir…
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Does your team have little phrases or quips that have become part of your everyday language? Short sentences that encapsulate some of the wit and wisdom you've gathered over the years? In this series, we are sharing the church comm "Wit and wisdom" Fishhook has gathered over the years. These short, encouraging phrases are meant to encourage, inspir…
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Does your team have little phrases or quips that have become part of your everyday language? Short sentences that encapsulate some of the wit and wisdom you've gathered over the years? In this episode, Aimee and Adam kick off a series where we talk about the wit and wisdom Fishhook has gathered over the years. These short, encouraging phrases are m…
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86: The Big 3 of Online Ministry Strategy
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Digital tools often get lumped together. Social media, website, email marketing. But are they really unique tools that require more intentional strategies? In this episode, Aimee outlines what she sees as the "Big 3" for online ministry strategy. Links mentioned: Ep. 62: Facebook Fears, Controversy, and Opportunity Ep. 64: Instagram is Waiting For …
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85: Same Mission, New Tools
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As a church, your mission never changes. Collectively, we are all focused on helping people know and growing closer to Jesus. But what happens when the tools and technology we use change? Do we stick to what is familiar and established? Or should we expand our options and take a chance on new ways of thinking and serving? In this episode, Leah and …
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84: Personalities and Communication, Part 2: Enneagram
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In part two of our conversation on personalities and communication, Jamie and Lindsay share their experience with Enneagram and talk about how hard it can be to work at a church. Plus we share a ton of resources to help you explore personality and work on your own and with your team. Links Mentioned: Fishhook’s The Table Typology Podcast The Sacred…
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83: Personalites and Communication, Part 1: Myers-Briggs
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Personality assessments like Myers-Briggs and Enneagram are all rage these days. But are they actually helpful? Jamie and Lindsay sit down with Adam to talk about the ways personality tools have helped them personally and how Fishhook has utilized tools and systems like these to fuel team growth and effectiveness. In part one of this series, we foc…
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82: Church Design Trends in 2019
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Good design is about solutions. Our lead graphic designer, Meredith, is joining the podcast today to talk about trends in solving problems through design in 2019. Along the way, we talk about what churches are doing well and a few things we would encourage them to stop doing when it comes to design. (Hint: stop copying) Links Mentioned: Fishhook De…
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81: Church Website Trends in 2019
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“Your website is your welcome mat.” If there’s any truth to the stat that 80% of people will visit your website before they show up at your church, you need to make sure you know what is happening with church websites in 2019. Our Lead Web Developer, Ben Goshow, joins Shayla and me for a conversation about what is happening with church websites. Wh…
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80: Healthier, Encouraged, and Equipped in 2019
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The podcast is back for another year! We're really excited for the work ahead and the conversations we get to be a part of with local churches all across the country. In this first episode of the year, we catch up on the holiday break, talk about what's coming on the podcast this year, and share a little bit about our team kick off to 2019. Links m…
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79: Navigating Our Own Leadership Transition
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Leah and Evan sit down to look back at 2018. Both express their gratitude for the work, the relationships, and the path of Fishhook. Evan shares what he has been wrestling with in recent months and years and unpacks the news of his transition away from leading the Fishhook team. It's an honest, vulnerable conversation, but also one filled with appr…
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78: Why You Need to Define Your Audience
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Who is your church trying to reach? If you have a hard time answering that question with a specific answer, we want to help you out! Every church is in a specific place, with specific resources, at a specific time—so you have a unique opportunity to reach certain people in ways other churches can't. Aimee and Shayla talk about how to identify your …
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77: Dale Sellers - Unique Challenges for Small Churches
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In this episode, Dale Sellers from the 95 Network joins us to talk about three unique challenges small churches are facing today. Dale brings practical experience and a deep passion for small churches, which he calls the "bread and butter" of the church in America. More than 95% of churches today are less than 500 people. How can church leaders lea…
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76: Preparing to Speak and a Peak Behind the Scenes at Fishhook
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Get a chance to hear behind the scenes in this episode as Evan prepares for speaking at the Alignment Conference. Aimee and Adam also share how they each approach preparing for a talk, workshop, or teaching a class. Then, Evan walks us through his main points for his talk entitled, "Communicating in Your Context." Links Mentioned: www.alignmentconf…
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75: How Can Doers and Dreamers Work Together?
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Every team needs a vision and people who can make the dream a reality. The challenge then becomes helping the dreamers and the doers move in the same direction. How do you begin to bridge the gap between people or teams that see the world in fundamentally different ways? In this conversation, Evan and Lindsay share their personal experiences of lea…
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74: Tech Roundup - IGTV, Facebook Groups, Bible Lens, and More
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Aimee Cottle is back and we have plenty of updates for you. Get a rundown on all the places Fishhook will be this fall. Plus, we break down some of the latest tech updates – IGTV, Facebook Groups, Bible Lens, and more. Links: https://www.fishhook.us/events https://www.fishhook.us/learnPar Fishhook, Inc.
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73: You Can't Run This Place on Love Alone, pt. 2
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Evan and Shayla continue the conversation about running your communications team with an agency mindset. Whether you are a team of one or a fully-staffed department, there is something for everyone in this continued conversation. Hear how you can move beyond managing your own time to leading a team and influencing others to operate for effective, e…
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72: You Can't Run This Place on Love Alone
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We're back! After a summer podcast hiatus, Evan and Shayla sit down to talk about a key mindset we have shared with many, many churches: running your communications team with an agency mindset. Whether you are a team of one or a fully-staffed department, there is something for everyone in this first part of a two-episode conversation. Links mention…
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71: A Special Event, Instagram TV, and Summer Tips
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Summer is flying by and we are checking back in to share some fun updates, including details for a special event taking place in July. Aimee shares her quick review of the new Instagram TV feature, and we share some rapid-fire tips for you to make the most out of the remaining time in your summer.Par Fishhook, Inc.
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