A podcast at the intersection of healing-centered education, contemplative social science and slow work.
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Discover the best bits of the best books read by people you admire. Michael Bungay Stanier hosts the podcast where brilliant people read the best two pages of a favourite book. Listen as authors, leaders, activists, academics, celebrities, and entrepreneurs dig in with MBS to explore the insights and ideas within. Whether it’s books that inspire leadership, change, self-development and growth, power, strategy, ambition, productivity, or creativity and innovation - this is hand-curated wisdom ...
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206. The Pursuit of Joy and Contentment: Neil Pasricha [reads] “A Fraction of the Whole”
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Neil Pasricha reads from A Fraction of the Whole by Steve Toltz, a novel celebrated for its humour and philosophical musings and sharing insights on balancing ambition with contentment. He reflects on how embracing life’s uncertainties can lead to growth and joy. Neil discusses his journey from personal challenges to finding meaning in simple momen…
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205. De-numbing from Tech: Greg M. Epstein [reads] “Once More to the Lake”
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Greg M. Epstein reads from E.B. White’s essay, Once More to the Lake, and Madeline Ostrander’s essay on the ethics of bringing children into a world facing climate uncertainty, reflecting on how nostalgia and future anxieties shape our understanding of legacy and purpose. He explores how our connections to the past and future influence not only how…
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204. Climbing a Mountain: Frankie Thorogood [reads] “Tricks of the Mind”
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Today’s guest is Frankie Thorogood, an entrepreneur who has navigated the intersections of creativity, business, and sports. Frankie shares his insights on finding fulfillment, balancing ambition with self-acceptance, and how creativity has played a pivotal role in his personal and professional life. Frankie’s reflections bring insight into the com…
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203. Healing and Paradox: Dr. Angel Acosta [reads] “The Coming Wave”
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Today's guest is Dr. Angel Acosta, a leading voice in healing-centered education and leadership development. With a doctorate from Teachers College, Columbia University, Dr. Acosta is the founder of the Acosta Institute, a Fellow at the Mind & Life Institute, and the Director of the Garrison Institute's Fellowship Program. His work bridges social j…
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202. The Relationship Between Things: Jeremy Lent [reads] “Tao Te Ching”
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Jeremy Lent reading from the Tao Te Ching and discussing the importance of interconnectedness, the essence of a life-affirming civilization, and finding meaning beyond the material world. We discuss the complexities of existence, the influence of relationships, and how we can shape a future that values harmony with the environment. Today’s guest, J…
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201. Be Your Free Self: Katherine Morgan Schafler [reads] “Big Magic”
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Katherine Morgan Schafler reads from Elizabeth Gilbert’s “Big Magic” and discusses creativity, perfectionism, and trusting yourself. We explore how we can balance striving for excellence while also letting go of control, and why we should show up for the work even when inspiration seems far off. Today’s guest, Katherine Morgan Schafler, is a psycho…
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200. Awaken to Your Calling: Raj Sisodia [reads] “Gandhi: His Life and Message for the World.”
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Today’s guest, Raj Sisodia is the FEMSA Distinguished University Professor of Conscious Enterprise at Tecnológico de Monterrey and Co-Founder and Chairman Emeritus of Conscious Capitalism Inc. He is a renowned author and thought leader on the role of business in society. Get book links and resources at http://2pageswithmbs.com and subscribe to the …
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199. How to be Hospitable: Will Guidara [reads] ‘Setting the Table.’
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Today’s guest is Will Guidara, author of the national bestseller Unreasonable Hospitality. Known for transforming Eleven Madison Park into the number one restaurant in the world, Will shares insights from his journey in the restaurant industry and beyond. Will embodies the delicate balance between two seemingly opposing forces: perfectionism and em…
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198. The Single Most Important Thing to Do: Kumi Naidoo [reads] “Dearest MaRiky”
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A favourite quote of mine, a call to action really and one that I reference in How to Begin, is “give more to the world than you take.” Jacqueline Novogratz said it, and she’s the founder of Acumen a venture capital firm that invests in non-profits making the world a better place. I find it powerful because it’s about the long game. Over your lifet…
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197. The Outsider on the Inside: Marcus Collins [reads] "Predictably Irrational."
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If you're an anglophile and of a certain age, then you'll know the comedic operettas of Gilbert and Sullivan, The Pirates of Penzance, Trial by Jury, The Mikado. They are all classics. I mean, I am an anglophile of a certain age, so I can sing the entirety of I Am a Very Model of a Modern Major General. I mean, really: “I am the very model of a mod…
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196. Seeking Home: Kassia St. Clair [reads] ‘Homing: On Pigeons, Dwellings and Why We Return’
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The year is 1888. Queen Victoria is celebrating her 50th year ruling over an empire on which, famously, the sun never sets. Her loyal subjects, as well as colonizing the heck out of the world, are breeding. And to signify whether they've got a little girl or a little boy in the family, sometimes the offspring break out from the usual white gowns an…
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195. Seeking the Story Behind the Story: Lauren Crux [reads] ‘The Book’
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Who holds up a mirror to you? We're all on our journeys forward, trying to figure things out and understand our destination, and it's really hard to do that alone. So, travel with people. Travel with someone. Travel with a group of people. Now, one of those people, I think, should be someone who can say, this is who I think you are right now. This …
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194. From the Vault: The Light and the Dark of a Hungry Heart: W. David Ball [reads] ‘Ulysses’
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Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant W. David Ball. Get book links and resources at http://2pageswithmbs.com and subscribe to the 2 Pages newsletter at https://2pageswithmbs.substack.com. Where do you find your people? I think I’m still looking for mine, and perhaps you are, too. What often happens …
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193. How to be Radically Generous: Vicki Saunders [reads] "Astonishing the Gods" by Ben Okri
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Vicki is the “Founding Activator” of Coralus, a venture capital company with a unique approach to reimagining the world of entrepreneurship. With a background in social entrepreneurship and a deep commitment to radical generosity, Vicki is a highly hopeful and optimistic individual who is dedicated to making a positive impact on the world. Get book…
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192. Learn Faster, Learn Better: Scott Young, Author of “Get Better at Anything” [reads] "The Principles of Teaching Based on Psychology" by Edward Thorndike
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Scott is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author, a podcast host, computer programmer, and an avid reader. He’s also an autodidact, who spends his time teaching people how to learn. Scott is the author of “Ultralearning” and “Get Better at Anything,” and he has been featured in The New York Times, BBC, TEDx, Pocket, Business Insider and more. Get …
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191. Obsessed (in a good way): Kaya Thomas [reads] “Positive Obsession” by Octavia Butler
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Kaya Thomas is an app builder and creator of the We Read Too app, a mobile directory of children and young adult books written by authors of color. With a background in working with well-known companies like Slack and Calm, Kaya's career has been a journey of blending her expertise in coding with her passion for promoting diversity in literature. T…
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190. How Empathy Calms Anxiety: Marc Brackett, author of “Permission to Feel,” [reads] “7 ½ Lessons about the Brain”
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Mark Brackett is a psychologist and professor at Yale University, known for his groundbreaking work in emotional intelligence and the impact of emotions on daily life. He is the founder and director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence. Through his book, “Permission to Feel,” and his work at Yale, Marc helps others give themselves permissi…
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189. Beware Your Shadow Career: Jay Papasan, author of “The One Thing,” [reads] “Turning Pro”
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Jay Papasan is the best-selling author of The One Thing, which has sold over 3 million copies and appeared on numerous bestseller lists. Jay's career trajectory has been a series of evolutions, from working in publishing at HarperCollins, to freelance writing, to finding a deep expression of his mission to create impact working in collaboration wit…
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188. Frailty, Strength, and Leadership: Amy Elizabeth Fox, CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, [reads] ‘Attuned’
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Amy Elizabeth Fox is a transformative figure in the realm of leadership development and personal growth. As the co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, she brings a unique perspective to the field, emphasizing the importance of inner transformation for effective leadership. Get book links and resources at http://2pageswithmbs.com/ Amy re…
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187. The Hardest & Best Creative Question: Austin Kleon, author of Steal Like An Artist [reads] ‘What It Is’
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It's not just our tech-enabled world that runs by algorithm. We meat machines, we humans, we one and all have our own programming, our deeply embedded rules that determine the decisions we make, the paths we walk, and who and how we show up in the world. Often the first part of growth and development is figuring out what our rules are, finding lang…
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With the new year, we’re doing something new with 2 Pages with MBS. Twice a month, you can listen in to the same excellent conversations, and we’ll also be dedicating a YouTube channel and newsletter to the show. With that said, I didn’t want to leave you without anything to tide you over until February. In this episode, I read from Seth Godin’s bo…
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185. The Power of Dreams and Authentic Leadership: Modupe Akinola [reads] Genesis, Chapter 37, of the Bible
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Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Do you have a posse of people with whom you create “good trouble?” A small group you can collaborate with to stir the pot, strengthen one another, and step to the edge of what you think is possible? I often wrestle with how to build that type of relationship, and what I should bring to the ta…
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184. Better Life Vault: Who do you serve?: Dave Stachowiak [reads] ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’
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Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Dave Stachowiak. A famous quote by Albert Schweitzer talks about how small and obscure deeds are far more powerful than public acts that receive acclaim. It goes: ‘[The public acts] were like the foam on th…
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183. Better Life Vault: How to be *Really* Happy: Stephanie Harrison [reads] ‘The Way of the Bodhisattva’
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Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Stephanie Harrison. Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Christmastime in Australia is in mid-summer. The Northern hemisphere traditions of ugly sweaters, roasted meats, and roaring fires really just don’t vibe there. We’ve even got a Christma…
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182. Better Life Vault: Getting Better at Falling Apart: Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, author of ‘Calm Within the Storm’ [reads] ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’
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Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe. Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What’s the language you go to when you think of resilience? Common answers include, ‘bouncing back,’ ‘bouncing forward,’ ‘what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,’ or ‘a regatherin…
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