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PEEPanEIP#130 :EIP-7547:Inclusion lists with Mike, Terence, Francesco
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Resources: ----------------- EIP - https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-7547 Discussion - https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/eip-... Other Resources: https://hackmd.io/ZGCulq-6RRmaS0OIr335BQhttps://ethresear.ch/t/no-free-lunch-... • Inclusion List: #researchers #stakers... • PEEPanEIP • Pectra (Prague-Electra) • Consensus Layer Proposals Check out upcoming EIPs in Peep an EIP series at https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herde... Follow at Twitter -------------------------- Mike - / mikeneuder Terence - / terencechain Fransecso - / fradamt Pooja Ranjan - / poojaranjan19 Topics covered ------------------------- 1:12 - About EIP-7547 2:30 - Meet our guest 2:45 - Meet Francesco, 4:23 - Meet Mike, 5:20 - Meet Terence 6:33 - What specific challenges of Ethereum's current architecture may have inspired the creation of this proposal? 7:04 - Why the Inclusion list is important? 8:33 - Who are the people building blocks? MEV boost analytics. 9:34 - Censorship.pics 10:26 - Vitalik's post "End Game" and "Inclusion List" 11:29 - Why IL is coming up now? 13:13 - What is "Non-censor" behavior on-chain? 14:59 - Preference entropy vs. validators 16:00 - Is 7547 the only proposal for censorship resistance or are there alternatives? 18:20 - Other research directions 19:45 - Out of protocol change research 21:07 - How 7547 is the best for censorship resistance? Share design or architecture. 21:40 - Block validation with IL 24:30 - Does this publishing address the reorg issues? 26:00 - Why forward property? 27:39 - Can blob transactions included in the inclusion list? Affect on the size of data? 28:55 - What does that do to P2P? 30:29 - What is a Deniability transaction? 32:55 - How does a censored party manage to submit its transaction via IL? Is this achieved through analyzing the mempool using heuristics? (from Twitter) 34:53 - 1559 gives an interesting heuristics 36:29 - Is there a maximum size that IL can grow to? 38:17 - Unconditional version of design wrt block size (EIP-7623) 39:53 - How does a censored party manage to submit its transaction via IL? Is this achieved through analyzing the mempool using heuristics? 40:46 - Slot N inclusion list is enforced. 41:21 - What feedback and concerns have you received from the community …related to Account Abstraction? 44:00 - State of current progress, implementation & prototype. 46:00 -How does it impact an avg Ethereum user? 50:44 - Where can people reach out to learn more or extend support? 50:58 - Francesco's message to the research community & stakers - "People who don't approve of the idea may be more vocal in a productive way to support research." Stakers please make your voice heard" 52:57 - Mike invites to join breakout room meetings, EthResearch, Eth R&D Discord 54:09 - Healthy entropy is very important - Terence 56:20 - Shoutout to Potuz
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Manage episode 419874944 series 3394190
Resources: ----------------- EIP - https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-7547 Discussion - https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/eip-... Other Resources: https://hackmd.io/ZGCulq-6RRmaS0OIr335BQhttps://ethresear.ch/t/no-free-lunch-... • Inclusion List: #researchers #stakers... • PEEPanEIP • Pectra (Prague-Electra) • Consensus Layer Proposals Check out upcoming EIPs in Peep an EIP series at https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herde... Follow at Twitter -------------------------- Mike - / mikeneuder Terence - / terencechain Fransecso - / fradamt Pooja Ranjan - / poojaranjan19 Topics covered ------------------------- 1:12 - About EIP-7547 2:30 - Meet our guest 2:45 - Meet Francesco, 4:23 - Meet Mike, 5:20 - Meet Terence 6:33 - What specific challenges of Ethereum's current architecture may have inspired the creation of this proposal? 7:04 - Why the Inclusion list is important? 8:33 - Who are the people building blocks? MEV boost analytics. 9:34 - Censorship.pics 10:26 - Vitalik's post "End Game" and "Inclusion List" 11:29 - Why IL is coming up now? 13:13 - What is "Non-censor" behavior on-chain? 14:59 - Preference entropy vs. validators 16:00 - Is 7547 the only proposal for censorship resistance or are there alternatives? 18:20 - Other research directions 19:45 - Out of protocol change research 21:07 - How 7547 is the best for censorship resistance? Share design or architecture. 21:40 - Block validation with IL 24:30 - Does this publishing address the reorg issues? 26:00 - Why forward property? 27:39 - Can blob transactions included in the inclusion list? Affect on the size of data? 28:55 - What does that do to P2P? 30:29 - What is a Deniability transaction? 32:55 - How does a censored party manage to submit its transaction via IL? Is this achieved through analyzing the mempool using heuristics? (from Twitter) 34:53 - 1559 gives an interesting heuristics 36:29 - Is there a maximum size that IL can grow to? 38:17 - Unconditional version of design wrt block size (EIP-7623) 39:53 - How does a censored party manage to submit its transaction via IL? Is this achieved through analyzing the mempool using heuristics? 40:46 - Slot N inclusion list is enforced. 41:21 - What feedback and concerns have you received from the community …related to Account Abstraction? 44:00 - State of current progress, implementation & prototype. 46:00 -How does it impact an avg Ethereum user? 50:44 - Where can people reach out to learn more or extend support? 50:58 - Francesco's message to the research community & stakers - "People who don't approve of the idea may be more vocal in a productive way to support research." Stakers please make your voice heard" 52:57 - Mike invites to join breakout room meetings, EthResearch, Eth R&D Discord 54:09 - Healthy entropy is very important - Terence 56:20 - Shoutout to Potuz
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