Humans interact with animals every day of our lives: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear, even medicines, are all intersections. This is a podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction and connection between humans and non-human animals.Our mission is to make research more accessible the public while sharing the voices and lived experience of our human connection with animals. www.thedealwithanimals.com
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Transcript Anthropogenic Behavior Change refers to the changes in wildlife behavior brought about through human made changes to the environment. Anthropogenic Environmental Change refers to alterations in the natural environment brought about by human activities. These changes encompass a wide range of impacts, from the emission of greenhouse gases…
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93: Human Relevant Testing: A Conversation on Enhancing Human Health and Animal Welfare with Dr. Aysha Akhtar (S9)
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Episode 6 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript This Episode explores the transition from traditional animal experimentation to human-relevant testing methods with guest Dr. Aysha Akhtar. This thought-provoking conversation is about the ethical, scientific, and practical limitations of animal testing in favor of more accurate, human-relev…
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92: Speciesism and The Chicken Encounter That Changed Everything with Pattrice Jones of VINE Animal Sanctuary (S9)
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"If you are interested in making the world better for animals, doing something about climate change, solving any social justice problems, veganism is going to be a necessary step." - Pattrice Jones Episode 6 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript Discussing the realities of racism, sexism, and speciesism, we explore how these issues are no…
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91: Four Steps to Reach Peak Performance with Mountaineer, Kuntal Joisher (S9)
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"I'm going to climb mountains as a vegan or I'm not going to do it at all. So that's very clear in my mind. I know vegans can get enough protein. I had been a vegan for eight years already by then." - Kuntal Joisher Episode 5 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript Our guest, an Indian vegan mountaineer and nutrition coach, shatters the ste…
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90: Breastfeeding and the Dairy Industry: Vegan Motherhood with Journalist, Jessica Scott-Reid (S9)
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"A lot of babies are born with an allergy to the protein in cow's milk that can transfer through breast milk, if you consume dairy as the mother....and a common thing that doctors will tell you to do is to eliminate certain things from your own diet to make the breast milk easier for your child to digest. Dairy {from cows} is one of those top thing…
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89: Valentines Special! Lost Loves Reunited with Author, Dr. Richard Sugg
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Valentine's Special! Transcript Dr. Richard Sugg, a connoisseur of animal narratives, joins us to unravel the mystery of dogs' navigational prowess in an exploration of the extraordinary capabilities of our four-legged friends, we delve into historical and modern-day research on animal homing instincts. Guest: Richard Sugg (PhD) is the author of 16…
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88: Can You Tell a Vegan by the Way They Dress? with Ashley Byrne Director of Outreach for PETA (S9)
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" I think very often people think that leather is not so bad because they think it's just a byproduct of the meat industry. The fact is that leather is actually a co-product of the meat industry. The cattle industry could not be profitable without the leather industry, they're tied together. It's a co-product." - Ashley Byrne, Director of Outreach …
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87: The Vegan Experiment: 31 Days of Plant-Powered Living- Veganuary! with Sandra Hungate (S9)
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"Everyone can pick and choose what they want to do in the program. We don't even measure what they do. We don't track them. There's no vegan police. We just share all the knowledge as much as we can to help them discover all the things, all the benefits, all the types of foods." - Sandra Hungate Episode 2 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transc…
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86: Can Dog Cuddling Influence Reduced Meat Consumption? Care Ethics with Dr. Maurice Hamington (S9)
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"We don't share a lot of things. We don't really share much language with animals. We don't really understand all the instincts of animals, but, we do share embodiment with them. And so that becomes a basis for imagining what their perspective is like, just like it becomes the basis for understanding what's going on with other people." - Dr. Mauric…
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85: Crossover Special! All Around Science with Bobby and Maura
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You may remember. Back from October 16th, this last year, 2023. I was a guest on a really great podcast called, All Around Science. It's a really fun podcast hosted by two huge science nerds, that help us learn all sorts of really cool scientific things that are going on right now. I really wanted to introduce you all to Maura and Bobby and all aro…
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84: How To Build a Bond With a New Dog with Stacey Colino and Jen Golbeck (December Special!)
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December Special #1 ! Transcript What if you could uncover the secrets behind the extraordinary bond between humans and their canine companions? Renowned authors and dog-lovers Jen Golbeck and Stacy Colino join us to explore this fascinating topic in detail. Their latest book, "The Purist Bond: Understanding the Human-Canine Connection," beautifull…
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Let me, your host, be your guide as we venture into this exciting journey, where we'll question the cognitive dissonance many animal lovers face when it comes to eating meat. Together, we'll challenge preconceptions, uncover the nitty-gritty of veganism - its culture, diet, and health choices. This isn't about converting you to veganism, it's about…
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83: Unmasking COVID-19's Impact on Animal Welfare with Nanette McCann and Corey Regnerus-Kell (S8)
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Episode 8 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript This discussion with Nanette McCann, executive director of Homeward Pet Adoption Center, and Corey Regnerus-Kell, general manager for animal services at the Royal New Zealand SPCA, will unmask the various strategic shifts these organizations have undertaken in response to …
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82: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 2) S8
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"I prefer to ask people, have you had dogs before? What did you love about them? If you could pull those qualities from that dog, the things you love most about him, what were they? And if you'd had a magic wand what would I like to just tweak a little bit." - Suzanne Clothier Episode 8 of series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transc…
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81: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 1) S8
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"So I'm asking very different questions in how I set up the test, because I want to know what is your native response here? Not a trained response, not a prompted response. I'm not begging you or just simply orienting you to me because I'm doing something. I want to know what you do if I just do my thing and you're in the same space. So the questio…
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80: Feline Mysteries: An Exploration into "The Magic of Cats" with Writer, Andrew Anderson (October Special #2?!)
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They are so magical and meaningful, and I mean magical in the magical sense. I mean, just as in open your eyes and look at them. Just look at what they are doing and there is difficulty and there is hardship in their lives, but they just carry on.- Andrew Anderson October Special #2 Transcript Today, we have a guest who is here to share insights ab…
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79: Redefining Monsters and Heroes: A Talk with Author, Daniel Kraus (October Special #1?!))
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October Special! Transcript Have you ever imagined finding yourself inside the belly of a whale, like a bizarre narrative pulled straight out of myth or biblical lore? Allow us to lead you through a captivating conversation with celebrated author Daniel Kraus, as he unravels the themes of his latest gripping novel, Whalefall, a survival tale set in…
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78: Speeding Up the System with Kristen Hassen (S8)
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It is not about animals. It is not about people. There is not a increase in cruelty and neglect in this country. There is not an increase in horrible dogs. The system is lower functioning than it's been in a long time. It's moving more slowly and it never really worked in the first place. - Kristen Hassen Episode 6 of Series 8 Transcript In this ep…
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77: The Unhoused Pet Crisis: Co-Sheltering with Jesse Casement and Jessica Gercke (S8)
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Episode 5 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript Discover a groundbreaking initiative between Father Joe's Villages and Helen Woodward Animal Center. This unique collaboration is changing the sheltering landscape and enhancing the lives of both humans and animals by allowing individuals experiencing homelessness to stay …
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76: Staying Curious: Empowerment and Change in the Dog Training Community with Grisha Stewart and Laurie C. Williams (Special Episode!)
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September Special Episode! With Grisha Stewart, best know for her book Ahimsa Dog Training, BAT, and The Grisha Stewart Academy, as well as the remarkable, Laurie C. Williams (The Dog Diva), who has seen it all in her 35 years of dog training. There has been dramatic transformations the dog training industry over the past few decades, from the use …
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75: Engage the Public in Your Mission: 5 Strategies with Writer, Arin Greenwood (S8)
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Episode Four in Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript Have you ever considered the power of storytelling in animal advocacy? We chat with Arin Greenwood, a passionate advocate for animal welfare and a riveting storyteller. In this conversation we explore Arin's experiences in animal welfare journalism, the strategies she e…
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74:On The Move: Exploring Companion Animal Transport with Dr. Lori Jervis (S8)
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Episode 3 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript In our discussion, we traverse through Dr. Jervis's intriguing research (Along with Collaborator Laura Bray) on relocating companion animals from the overpopulated regions of the Southern US to the North, a mission that's changing the landscape of animal welfare. We discus…
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73: Breaking Barriers: Unpacking Access, Attitudes, and Change in Animal Welfare with Ashley Anderson-Mutch (S8)
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Episode 2 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare Ashley's insights shed light on the complex challenges faced by underserved communities in the realm of animal welfare. However, it's not all grim. Ashley shares the transformative work being done by Pets for Life. The program extends its services to over 50 cities in the U.S., offering access to p…
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72: 7 Misunderstood Beliefs in Animal Welfare: Myth Busting with Scott Giacoppo (S8)
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Episode 1 of Series 8: The World of Animal Sheltering Transcript Ever thought about the misconceptions that surround nuisance wildlife management or how those misconceptions might be affecting policies and attitudes? Join us for a compelling discussion with Scott Giacoppo, Director of National Shelter Outreach for Best Friends Animal Sanctuary. "wh…
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71: July Special! Unseen Battle: Françoise Malby-Anthony on Protecting African Wildlife
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We sit down with Françoise Malby-Anthony , acclaimed author and passionate wildlife conservationist. Françoise brings to the table her invaluable experiences at the forefront of animal conservation in South Africa, where she and her late husband Lawrence Anthony created a sanctuary for elephants at the Thula Thula Game Reserve. This episode is not …
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Details about upcoming Specials Call to Action- Patreon!- Newsletter The move to Buzzsprout FYI Series 8 info! Full theme music (for those of you who want to rock out) Show Credits Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my Podcast Mentoring Ser…
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70: Beyond Symbolism: Understanding Animals as Ancestors with Author, Ben Stimpson (S7)
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"...we have a very narrow view of what ancestors actually are. We, we tend to think of them only in terms of blood relations. Instead of the, the vastness of what could potentially be Ancestor." -Ben Stimpson Episode 6 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript What we Discuss: Uncover the fascinating connections between all species and their i…
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69: Healing Paws: The Spiritual Impact of Therapy Dogs in Christian Ministries with Heather Frigiola (S7)
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"This is a multispecies ethnography, so I'm not treating them like just objects or tools. I recognize that they're living beings with unique personalities."- Heather Frigiola Episode 5 of Season 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript In this episode, we dive into the fascinating world of Canine Ministries, where dogs serve alongside their owners in C…
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68: A Christian Perspective on Animal Ethics: Exploring Our Responsibilities Towards Other Creatures with Theologian, Dr. David Clough (S7)
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"Animal killing looks like a very morally serious act. In those rules about sacrifice and consumption of animals in the Old Testament. And then animal sacrifice, is not saying that animal lives don't matter. It's saying quite reverse. Animals are somehow able to mediate nothing less than a sort of relationship between humans and the divine."- Dr. D…
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67: May Special!: Barking Up the Right Tree: Applied Ethology and the Human-Dog Connection with Kim Brophey
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Are we truly giving our furry companions the life they deserve? As pet owners, we often assume that we're providing a safe and comfortable environment for our dogs. However, in this thought-provoking podcast episode, certified dog behavior consultant and author Kim Brophey sheds light on the natural context of animals, particularly dogs, and the co…
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65: Useful Violence with Dr. Anat Ben-Yonatan (S7)
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Episode 2 of Series 7: Animals and The Divine Transcript I'm talking to Anat Ben-Yonatan, a researcher at Tel Aviv University whose research is as fascinating as it is disturbing. But don't let that scare you away, We won't be going into any detailed descriptions of violence, but we are talking about animal slaughter for the purposes of kosher eati…
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64: Animals in World Religions with Author, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer (S7)
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Episode 1 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript Dr Lisa Kemmerer shares with us the role of animals in a wide range of religions. From deities, tricksters, shapeshifters, emblems and mora agents. Animals are truly one thing that all belief systems have in common. We discuss the value of indigenous teachings and reciprocity and Lisa gives i…
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63: EVAT Mini-series (Part 6): Free-Living Cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries a Round Table with Kris Hill and Dr. Jacqui Sadashige
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Part 6: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript I chat with both Kris Hill and Jacqui Sadashige about their research in Free Living cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries respectively. And we talk about our takeways from The Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference. A fun and wide ranging discussion! Guest: J…
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62: EVAT Mini-series (Part5): Animal Neighbours Project with Sharmini Julita Paramasivam
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Part 5: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript We discuss Sharmini' s work with communities near tourist attractions to solves issues of wildlife conflict... those adorable monkeys that the tourists are feeding at the shrine can cause real havoc in surrounding neighborhoods! Guest: Sharmini Julita Paramasivam i…
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61: EVAT Mini-series (Part4): Eagle Relatives and Aviary Tours with Bobbie Chew Bigby
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Part 4: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript I'm talking to researcher and Cherokee Nation citizen Bobby Chew Bigby about her work, studying the tribal led eagle aviary tours in Oklahoma Indian countries. Guest: Bobbie is a storyteller, writer, scholar, educator, polyglot and enthusiast of the diversity of hu…
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60: EVAT Mini-series (Part3) : Media Portrayal of Animals in Tourism with Eveline Baptistella
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Part 3: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript A chat with Journalist and Researcher, Eveline Baptistella about her work trying to find common ground between humans and the animals we use in tourism. Guest: Eveline Baptistella holds a Ph.D. in Contemporary Culture Studies - Communication and Culture from Mato G…
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59: EVAT Mini-Series (Part 2): Animal Law in Pakistan with Altamush Saeed
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Part 2: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series, 2023 Transcript We're releasing these episodes Monday Wednesday and Friday for The two weeks surrounding the conference itself. I'll be will talking with Altamush about Zoological gardens gardens in Pakistan, how he got started in Animal welfare, And how his foundation is helping…
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58: Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference Miniseries (Part 1): Animal Experience International with Nora Livingstone
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Part 1: Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference 2023 Mini-series Transcript I'm talking with Nora Livingstone, the CEO and co-founder of Animal Experience International, an award winning B Corp that helps people volunteer on animal welfare and conservation projects. She is also Hosting the first panel at the 2023 Emerging Voices for Anima…
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Transcript Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host …
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57: Valentines Special!: Furry Fandom with Victoria Gersdorf
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Valentine's Special! - Furry Fandom with Victoria Gersdorf I chat with Victoria Gersdorf about her research around and discussions with those in the Furry Fandom Community. Its a fascinating and fun exploration into a subculture of love, life, and FUR. Guest: Victoria grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah before moving to Helena, Montana to attend Carrol…
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56: Friend-sheep with Guest Host Nanette McCann (S6)
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Episode 7 of Season 6 - The Animal Protagonist Surprise guest host, Nanette McCann interviews me about the difficulties and successes of discovering animal friendships. Guest Host: Nanette McCann joined Homeward Pet as the Executive Director in 2018. It was Homeward Pet’s reputation for community engagement and volunteer dedication that spoke to Na…
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55: Grief in Other than Human Animals with Dr. Barbara J. King (S6)
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Episode 6 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist Have you ever wondered if other-than-human animals experience grief? We explore this question and other about emotion in non-human animals with Dr. Barbara King. Guest: Barbara J. King is Emerita Professor of Anthropology at William & Mary and a freelance science writer and public speaker. The author of…
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54: Shh- The Orcas are Hunting: The Quiet Sound Project with Rachel Aronson (Part 2)
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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors (Part 2) We will explore the waters of the Puget sound in a current and ongoing project meant to improve critical habitat of the Southern Resident Killer Whales. Guest: Rachel Aronson is the Quiet Sound Program Director at Washington Maritime Blue, a NGO that seeks to accelerate the sustainability an…
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53: Saving Coal Creek with Sally Lawrence (Part 1)
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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors (Part 1) In this episode we get hyperlocal with Sally Lawrence and discuss the Save Coal Creek project in Bellevue, Washington. This is an important natural area to the Greater Seattle Area and King County. This is a time sensitive issue with a rally and important decision coming up in the next few w…
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52: Predation in Practice with Simone Müller (S6)
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Episode 5 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist Often predatory behavior in your family pet is considered a undesirable behavior. Most people try to suppress predatory behavior but Simone is going to talk to us about the importance of predatory behavior and how to use what she calls predation substitute training for dogs who absolutely love to chase …
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51: Canid Olfaction and Our Shared Umwelt with Dr. Simon Gadbois (S6)
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Episode 4 of Series 7: The Animal Protagonist I talk with the fascinating Dr. Simon (pronounced Simo) Gadbois, about the canid nose and the complicated relationship humans have with dogs. Guest: Simon Gadbois integrates ethology, animal experimental psychology, and behavioural neuroscience to study wild and domestic canids. He completed his Ph.D. i…
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50: New Year's Special- Recognizing and Overcoming Compassion Fatigue with Hilary Hager (Encore (Ep: 7))
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Ep 50- Special Encore Episode. Bringing back a listener (and personal) favorite episode for "the good old days" (2021). Pertinent to this time of year (not just for animal welfare workers), a lot of us are promising too much and feeling like we're delivering too little. We really need to think a little bit about self-care and instead we're thinking…
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49: The Culture of Free Living Dogs with Sindhoor Pangal (S6)
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Episode 3 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist We explore the lives and lifestyles of free living dogs with Anthrozoologist, Author, and Dog Behaviour Expert, Sindhoor Pangal. Guest: Sindhoor is a canine behaviour consultant, Galen myotherapist, an independent ethology researcher, an engineer by qualification and an educator in Bangalore, India. She…
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48: Underwater Bioacoustics with Dr. Michelle Fournet (S6)
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Episode 2 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist This episode is about the world from a the perspective of marine animals. Particularly how their acoustic environment effects their perceptions, health, and ability to find food and mates. we will be talking about who is talking in the world below the waves and what they are saying. Also; air Guns, mass…
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47: Expressions of Emotion in Animals with Dr. Mariska Kret (S6)
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Episode 1 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist I'm talking to Dr Mariska Kret about how its possible to study the emotions of humans and other apes. The implications of this research is wide and the method more objective than you might think. Guest: Dr. Mariska Kret (PI) works as a full professor at the Cognitive Psychology Unit of Leiden University…
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