Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader a ...
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss showing how much you care - when and how - and also AI in the workplace after their discussion with Cesar Keller from Collective Brains and WORKPLACE21 in Episode #95 Find out more about The Nar…
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Leadership Story Talks | AI, Humans & The Workplace with Cesar Keller
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"I love the saying "no one cares how much you know until they know how much you care. It doesn't matter how wise and knowledgeable your boss is, if they don't show that they care about you, and caring is the main condition to create trust." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Cesar Keller, an influential leader at the intersection of AI an…
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss those difficult conversations brought up in a story told by Todd Davis of Franklin Covey in Episode #93 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com EMAIL Jerome@narativ.co…
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Leadership Story Talks | Navigating Difficult Conversations with Todd Davis
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"If we realize, wait a minute, I can reduce the pain, and actually I can make progress if I focus first and foremost on balancing my needs and theirs, and if I get real clear on that balance of what we call courage and consideration." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Todd Davis, a senior consultant and thought leader at Franklin Covey w…
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss pay equity from their talk with Sally Loftis of Loftis Partners in Episode #92 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www.li…
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Leadership Story Talks | Pay Equity with Sally Loftis
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"Are you engaging people who are just trying to survive day to day and pay their bills? Or do you engage with people who have the capacity to dream and innovate for your company, because those day-to-day concerns are taken care of?" In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Sally Loftis. She's the managing director at Loftis Partners, a 100% wom…
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss learning from our ancestors from their talk with Craig Delarge in Episode #89 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com LINKEDIN https://www…
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Leadership Story Talks | Mental Health in the Age of Digital Technology with Craig Delarge
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"May we have a level of wisdom and literacy and will and purpose that allows us to rise to the occasion of using our technologies to keep ourselves and our children healthy." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Craig DeLarge. Craig is a digital healthcare strategist, mental health advocate, and educator at the Digital Mental Health Project…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening With People
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss listening with people from their talk with Corine Jansen in Episode #87 Notes *Learn more about the Global Listening Movement *Find Corine Jansen on LinkedIn Find out more about The Narativ …
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Leadership Story Talks | Listening With People with Corine Jansen
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"We should take more time for self-awareness and reflection to become aware of our instruments. How do we resonate with people with different views or different morals? Am I really curious to know the other, or just to get an answer?" In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Corine Jansen. Corine has over three decades of experience in communic…
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In this new series of shorter podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. When you're managing a project with multiple tasks and you're trying to complete the project, it's easy to see the project as a series of to-do's and deadlines. Don't forget that it's about people. Use storytelling an…
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Leadership Story Talks | Speaking the Language of Project Management with Kory Kogan
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"Every single person in the organization should understand the language of something (...), a leader should understand the language of project management, so they understand the foibles of it and the inspiration of it when they are assigning it to a project manager." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Kory Kogan. She is FranklinCovey’s Vi…
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss giving everyone a voice, mentioned by Workplace Wellness Expert Erica Reed in Episode #83 Notes *Learn more about Leading Well Solutions *Find Erica Reed on LinkedIn *Learn more about the on…
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Leadership Story Talks | Creating Workplace Wellness by Increasing Emotional Intelligence with Erica Reed
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"If you don't know what to say and you're afraid of saying the wrong thing, you say nothing. And then you have to have an awareness of what that nothingness is communicating." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Erica Reed. She's the founder of Leading Well Solutions, and she brings over 25 years of experience as a psychotherapist and work…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Intention + Attention
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss using intention with attention mentioned by CEO and founder of WriterGirl Christy Pretzinger in Episode #81 Notes * Find Christy Pretzinger on LinkedIn * Learn more about WriterGirl Find out…
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Leadership Story Talks | Building a Business Based on Kindness with Christy Pretzinger
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"When I first started my business, I said to my accountant at the time, if I can't build a business based on kindness, then I'll go back to being a freelance writer." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Christy Pretzinger, a dynamic, visionary innovator who has transformed the landscape of healthcare content creation as the owner and CEO o…
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Leadership Story Talks | Becoming AI Literate Citizens in a Global World with Melissa Drew
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“In order for us to be AI literate, we have to be aware of what and how much data we're creating. We have to understand when and how our personal data is being stored, shared, deleted, and sold to a third party. An AI literate citizen is someone who can feel confident that they understand how the data is being used in the products and services that…
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Leadership Story Talks | Data, Stories & Systemic Changes in Financial Health with Matt Bahl
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“How do we get employers to say that their workers are not risks to be managed but humans worthy of investment and dignity? That is a fundamental shift in the way that benefits are designed and oriented in a lot of contexts.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to their first returning guest! Matt Bahl is the Vice President of Market Lead Wor…
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Leadership Story Talks | Creating Human Connection in Healthcare & Beyond with Derek McCracken
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“Every conversation is a fresh performance. And even though we have skill sets we're bringing forward, that person is listening to this for the first time, and they are a new audience, and we have to meet them where they are.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Derek McCracken, a New York-based health equity activist who teaches narrative…
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Leadership Story Talks | Setting Intentions
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“What is your story right now? What's your story going to be for this year and beyond? January is always that month when you have an opportunity to sort of pause for just a minute and look at what's ahead and how you want to be.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about setting intentions. They explain the difference between resolutions, goa…
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Leadership Story Talks | How to Access Authenticity with Hava Horowitz
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“I'm thinking of authenticity on a moment-to-moment basis, in a threefold way: one, can I locate what feels true for me in this moment? This is that self-inventory piece. Two: Can I express what feels true for me in this moment? That's the communication piece. And, three, can I read the needs of the moment? Can I read my audience? Can I read my env…
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Leadership Story Talks | Failing Forwards
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“We don't have control. We can only have control of what we're doing and how we're reacting, and appreciating how the other people might be watching this situation and seeing how we can pivot and shift.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on the episode they did recently with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker who made a movie called “How to Succes…
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Leadership Story Talks | Embracing Humanity in Storytelling and Leadership with Elena Valentine
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“I'd like to think that the stories that we tell on behalf of our clients are helping them remember their why, their reason for being, and why they exist today.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Elena Valentine. She is the co-founder and executive director of Skillscout, a creative studio dedicated to transforming brand stories into com…
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Leadership Story Talks | Why Story? Why Now?
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“Even if you've told a story a thousand times to different audiences, every time you're going to tell that story to a new audience in a new location, in a new venue, or at a new time, you still have to ask yourself that question. Because once you answer that question anew every time, you are going to show up in a very different way.” In this episod…
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Leadership Story Talks | Bringing the Human Edge with Lisa Danels
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“If each one of us is aligned in that space where we have access to our heart, head, and gut, we have an incredible capacity within ourselves and our organizations. We create more capacity than we could possibly ever use to solve the problems that are in front of us.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Lisa Danels. She is the founder and …
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Leadership Story Talks | Finding The Funny (& more) After Failure with C.M. Conway
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“Once you get past the emotional reaction, what is this failure telling me? Is it telling me to stop? Is it telling me to persevere? Is it not the right time, or do I need to dig a little deeper, and do I maybe need to find another way? Do I need to find another day?” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker, marketin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Navigating Change & Emotion with Intention
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“Almost on a day-to-day basis, you hear things that you really do not believe in. It pushes your buttons, makes you angry, sad, upset, whatever it might be. It provokes a reaction, and the question is, what do you do with that?” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about a recent experience Julienne had that led her to reflect on the importanc…
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Leadership Story Talks | Learning to Be Authentic with Ehsan Fahmi
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“There are all these different types of people that I've coached: men, women, executives, graduates, it doesn't matter. They all have the same challenge, and that challenge is how do I just be more myself in my job? It's literally this, and it all stems from the same cause, but it translates in different stories.” In this episode, Jerome and Julien…
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Leadership Story Talks | Data-Based DEI with Miranda McKie
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“You would go into these leadership meetings and for everything else it would be “okay, let me see the financials, let me see the numbers associated with it”. But diversity, equity, and inclusion was, “how do you feel”, right? And it would be, “how do you feel”, because we talked to maybe the five people of color at our organization, and that's how…
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Leadership Story Talks | with Heather Hansen
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“We need to start inviting everyone to the table if we want to have innovation and growth, because we're losing half our talent here or more because we're hugely outnumbered as native English speakers. The fact that we have this immediate power and dominance in the world due to our eloquence in English, I see as a massive inequality.” In this fasci…
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Leadership Story Talks | Season Two
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Welcome to a new season of Leadership Story Talks! In this episode, Jerome and Julienne kick off the new season and introduce the theme for this month: culture. How does an organizational culture shift in the face of the increasingly uncertain world that we’re in? What are the values that drive an organization, and individual people, and what happe…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Leaders Listen
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on April 24th 2023. For this podcast series, Jerome and Julienne have been talking to many people about leadership. In this episode, they look back at the conversations they’ve had, talk about the things many of these leaders had in common, and share what they have learned …
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | From Athlete to CEO with Niall Dunne
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on January 23rd 2023 Julienne and Jerome speak to Niall Dunne, CEO of Polymateria, a company that is working on solving the enormous, worldwide problem of plastic pollutants. You’ll go on a fascinating journey as Niall tells us about how he started as a track and field athl…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Measuring Justice with Amy Bach
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on March 27th 2023 Julienne and Jerome speak with Amy Bach, founder and CEO of Measures for Justice, a criminal justice nonprofit that develops data tools and services that help communities, including the institutions that serve them, reshape the system. A journalism fellow…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Learning to Keep Your Mouth Shut with Dan Lyons
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on March 20th 2023 What do Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Tim Cook, Barack Obama, Richard Branson, and Larry King have in common? They are great listeners and know when to stop talking. In this episode Julienne and Jerome talk to Dan Lyons, New York Times bestselling author, screenwr…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Live Storytelling Coaching with Anna Vafeiadou
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on December 13th 2022. Julienne and Jerome discuss how storytelling has enhanced their guest’s presentation and leadership skills. Anna Vafeiadou is responsible for the legal sector of the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) in Greece. As she had been increasingly asked to represent …
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Our Origin Story
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on October 25th 2022. In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect back on their meeting. Julienne had reached out to Jerome and members of the Narativ team, that led to a meeting in person (pre-pandemic). During that first meeting, Julienne noticed that the Narativ team me…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Socratic Dialogue with Sira Abenoza
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on April 11th 2022. In this episode Jerome and Julienne talk with Sira Abenoza, a professor at ESADE business and law schools in Barcelona, Spain. She created the Institute for Socratic Dialogue to create conversations between people who sometimes have diametrically opposin…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Making The Workplace Work Better for Working People with Matt Bahl
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on December 8th 2021. Jerome and Julienne talk with Matt Bahl – VP and head of workplace financial health, Financial Health Network. In this episode of Story Talks we discover: How do we make people’s lives better by improving their financial resilience? That salaries are n…
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Leadership Story Talks | Looking Back and Looking Forward
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It’s the last episode of the season! Jerome and Julienne take a moment to reflect on what they’ve learned from all the inspiring guests they had the privilege to talk to this season and how they can take that forward in their work. They discuss the novel perspectives on DEI and the importance of not only looking at issues through one lens and payin…
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Leadership Story Talks | The Portfolio Life with Christina Wallace
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Are you interested in many different things, and if so, have you permitted yourself to be all of who you are? How do you build a (professional) life that allows you to be many things at the same time? In this episode, Julienne and Jerome talk to Christina Wallace, a self-described human Venn diagram who has crafted a career at the intersection of b…
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Leadership Story Talks | Organizational Culture with Pernilla Rorso
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“People have their personalities, there’s professional culture and there’s an organizational culture. Everything plays a role, but you can say national culture runs the deepest and it’s more or less in place by the age of 10. So it really runs deep.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Pernilla Rorso, who specializes in national and organi…
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Leadership Story Talks | Everyday Leadership with Ash Beckham
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“Wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, you can lead right now. It’s not just when you open your laptop or walk in the door at work. It’s a lifestyle.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Ash Beckham, an inclusion activist whose TEDx talk ‘Coming Out of Your Closet’ became a viral sensation and author of the book ‘Step Up: How to Live wi…
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Leadership Story Talks | The Power of Saying No
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Are you someone who prefers to say yes, or are you someone who likes to say no? And can you think of experiences where using the answer you usually default to might not have been productive or effective? In this podcast, Jerome and Julienne talk about the power of saying no, the importance of listening to your internal dialogue, and the courage to …
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Leadership Story Talks | The Greatest Song with Kevin Griffin
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The music business is notoriously fickle, but some people, such as Kevin Griffin, manage to stay for a long time. What did he do that many of his peers didn’t? How did he manage to stay inspired and nimble? In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Kevin Griffin, an award-winning songwriter, producer, and performer whose songs have sold over…
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Leadership Story Talks | Pay Attention to The Tension
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In this episode, we explore the line between comfort and discomfort. Tension and ease. When do we need to stretch ourselves and put ourselves in a “dis-comfort zone” in order to grow? Julienne shares a recent experience of noticing the tension that she was feeling. Rather than trying to hide it away, she decided to explore its cause, and figure out…
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Leadership Story Talks | Listen Courageously with Julianna Tafur
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“All it takes is one person's recognition of the other person's suffering, humanity and value for the other person to go ‘you see me, you truly see me, you get me’, and then the magic happens. People want to be seen and heard.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Juliana Tafur, an Emmy-nominated TV producer and the Listen Courageously mo…
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Leadership Story Talks | What It Means to be a Man
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How do stereotypes affect leadership? How can we empower people, and men in particular, to question those stereotypes, take control of their identity and be a better version of themselves? In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about the growing movement trying to change the traditional idea of what it means to be a man. They talk about how ster…
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Leadership Story Talks | Alexandre Seiler
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“People want choice, optionality, and flexibility. They don’t want to be told what to do.” In this episode, Julienne and Jerome sit down with Alex Seiler, a global people leader with over 15 years of experience transforming people functions and putting talent first at WeWork, Blue Shield of California, NBCUniversal, and Citi. He currently serves as…
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Leadership Story Talks | Innovating For Diversity
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Better product development, greater innovation, and better performance- many companies and people see the benefits of greater diversity. But what if we flip the script around and apply a lens of innovation to diversity rather than view diversity as just another checkbox? This is one of the ideas that Bertina Ceccarelli and Susanne Tedrick, the two …
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