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Interdisciplinary is Healwell's health care podcast about all the places and perspectives that lift us up. We say what other people aren't willing to say and we always say the quiet parts loud. You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more compassionate and collaborative system of care for all humans.
 
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We have a full house for this season finale episode. The whole Healwell Brain Trust gathers for a conversation about Season 10 -- what we have learned, and what is still missing. ********** Check out our live and online, on demand classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Corey's Systems Theory Reading list: Thinking in Systems: https://www.good…
 
Sometimes the planned episode falls through. In those times, we get together on the recording link and talk about the fun symposium we just had, and the classes we have coming up. Enjoy this short interim conversation. We'll be back with the Season 10 wrap up on March 25. ********** Free 2-week trail of the Healwell Community: https://community.hea…
 
Mai Lin Petrine knows hats. She also knows what it takes to support the massage therapy profession through legal and regulatory challenges. Corey and Rebecca talk with Mai Lin about moody teenagers, Peter Pan, and the future of massage therapy. ********** Interstate Massage Therapy Compact: https://massagecompact.org *********** Let us know what yo…
 
Cal and Corey talk with Gordon MacDonald, Executive Director of the RMTBC about regulation, education, and the parallel paths of nursing and massage in Canada. This conversation explores our shared challenges of supporting a profession in transition. ********** Registered Massage Therapists' Association of British Columbia: www.rmtbc.ca ***********…
 
Cal and Corey sit down with Debra Persinger, executive director of FSMTB to talk education, (de)regulation, and what it takes to keep both consumers and massage therapists safe. ********** Entry-Level Analysis Project (ELAP): https://www.elapmassage.org ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org *********** Suppor…
 
Cal talks with Andraéa LaVant about disability justice, intersectionality, and the real work of making just and accessible spaces. ********** Find out more about LaVant Consulting here: https://lavantconsultinginc.com *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of…
 
Laura and Rebecca talk with Lori Green about how things are going in Saskatchewan, Canada. What does it mean to support the only unregulated health care profession in a province? How's it going with the drive for massage therapy regulation in Saskatchewan? And what can we learn from each other? ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an emai…
 
"How do we stop people being interested in hierarchies and status?" This is just one of the questions Cal and Rebecca Barnett take on in part 2 of their conversation. ********** Association of Massage Therapists (Australia): https://www.amt.org.au/ *********** AMT Statements on Volunteering: https://www.amt.org.au/downloads/position-statements/AMT-…
 
We are starting off in the deep end this season. Part 1 of this 2-part conversation with Rebecca Barnett begins with an exploration of the massage therapy landscape in Australia and United States and quickly goes deep into questions of identity and purpose in the profession. ********** Association of Massage Therapists (Australia): https://www.amt.…
 
4/5 of the Healwell Brain trust got together to do a little podcast time travel. Where did we come from? Where are we going? And how can you be a part of the future of Interdisciplinary. Featuring (in order of appearance): Cal Cates, Rebecca Sturgeon, Kerry Jordan, and Laura Bryant-Earner ********** Join our Patreon to support this podcast, and get…
 
We're not punchy, you're punchy. It was the day before the massive pre-holiday winter storm, and 4/5 of the Healwell Brain Trust got together to talk about what we learned this season and to -- once again -- talk about how excited we are for our February symposium. We have a couple of requests for emails in there, too. We are looking forward to hea…
 
Corey and Cal sit down with Harry Pickens to talk more about information from the perspective of a (mostly) regular human who has had to master finding and disseminating information in the service of their own health. It's about discernment, it's about knowing yourself, and most of all -- it's about love. ********** Within Reach: The quest for info…
 
Corey really wants to know -- why do researchers like research so much? Matt Hudson joins Corey and Kerry to explore this question and get into the details about what makes discovery delightful, exciting, challenging, and infuriating. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium is February 25-26. Ea…
 
Statistics are amazing! No, really -- we found a fun, brilliant human to talk to us about using statistics to engage with the world in a more informed way. Lauren Fowler (who is basically the same as Charlie from Top Gun) helps Cal and Corey shine light on the back of their knees and make it make sense. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Inform…
 
Catherine Ryan is back!!! Our favorite Canadian former co-host, fascia nerd, and research-positive massage therapist joins us to talk about bringing research into practice. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-25, 2023. Join us for some learning from the comfort of your home. Grab your Early Bird price now:…
 
Who runs the world? Librarians. Particularly pun-loving, loud librarians like this week's guest, Taylor Xiao. Corey and Cal enter the Matrix with Taylor to talk about the emotional labor-intense role of an academic librarian, the difference between information and knowledge, and how information is like Play-Doh. ********** Request CEs for this epis…
 
Cal and Corey sit down with Adrienne Asta, Board President of the Massage Therapy Foundation, fierce advocate for massage therapists, and all around wonderful human. After an unprecedented three-pun opening, they talk about what's next for MTF and how this organization is going to serve and support you in the coming months. ********** Within Reach:…
 
Corey and Cal talk with Whitney Lowe about the gigantic pot of gold that is information, and the most important skill that is also the most difficult to teach. (Hint: It's clinical reasoning.) ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium is in February 2023! Reserve your spot now: https://www.healwel…
 
Corey and Cal get into the weeds with Niki Munk and a conversation about the state of massage research -- including reflections on the high number of massage therapists who also have a theater degree. ********** CEUs are available for this episode! Take the quiz and request your certificate here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinar…
 
Welcome to Season 9! This season, Corey Rivera will take us on a journey through the wild world of information and research literacy. What do we know? How do we know it? What do we do with information? How does all of this relate to how we are with other humans? We have a whole season to talk about it, starting with the Healwell Brain Trust taking …
 
The Healwell Brain Trust is assembled to look back on the Season of the Switch. What have we learned? What have we unlearned? Put on your "It Depends" and grab a seat as we talk through this season, consider the question of honesty, and speculate on which Goonies character we would be. ********** Paul Laurence Dunbar's "We Wear the Mask": https://w…
 
Part 2 of our conversation with Frances Reed digs into questions around generations and growth edges, being seen and the possible benefits of needing to fight for your identity. Plus, baby otters and Frances' Nana. ********** Check out Frances' website for their classes and to pre-order their book on binding health and pain management: https://fran…
 
We had such a great conversation with Frances Reed that we made it into 2 episodes! In this first part of our conversation with Frances, we talk about code switching as a queer, trans, bodyworker, and educator. We delve into what happens in your body when you are actively unseen, and the process of tailoring your presentation for folks who might no…
 
Jamil Rivers returns to the podcast to talk about code switching in health care, ongoing disparities that are causing actual harm, and her work in connecting people to the standard of care in cancer care. ********** Find Jamil's organization here: www.thechrysalisinitiative.org www.bcnavi.com ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Heal…
 
Matthew F. Hudson, Ph.D., M.P.H., joins us on the podcast to talk about code switching in a professional setting, the challenge of moving from the West Coast to the East Coast to the Southeast, and how all of this can affect personal and community health. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email at podcast@healwell.org ********** Con…
 
Chase Anderson's keynote was one of the highlights of our Just Care conference. We are delighted to welcome Chase back to talk about finding your safe place, being yourself, and making it possible for everyone around us to be themselves too. ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** For early …
 
We are pleased to welcome Harry Pickens to today's episode. Harry shares his story of code switching in medical care, the links between trauma and code switching, and a clear vision of what our future could be like -- if we choose it. ********** We want to hear from you! Email us: podcast@healwell.org ********** Continue the conversation in the Hea…
 
In this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust opens up their hearts for an uncomfortable, loving, and honest conversation about code switching, in-groups and out-groups, and the question of lying versus adaptation. Featuring (in order of appearance:) Cal Cates Corey Rivera Kerry Jordan Rebecca Sturgeon Laura Bryant-Earner ********** Continue this conve…
 
We are pleased to welcome Gabriela DeAnda, Healwell Community member and all around awesome human. Gabriela talks to us about intersectionality, and her personal experiences adapting and relating. ********** Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring this season of Interdisciplinary! abmp.com ********** Continue this conversation with us in the Healwell Comm…
 
Welcome to Season 8 of Interdisciplinary! This season, we are exploring code switching. What is it? Why do we do it? When do we do it? And -- how does it affect our ability to care for each other? ********** Big love to our sponsor for Season 8, ABMP! Check them out at abmp.com ********** NPR's Code Switch podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcas…
 
It's the Season 7 wrap up! And because we're Healwell, it's also an exploration of the state of the world and the work that needs to be done in it. Thank you for being here with us! We'll be off for a couple of weeks planning our next season. Keep in touch with us in the Healwell Community (community.healwell.org) or by sending an email to podcast@…
 
This is your exclusive inside look at what happens in Healwell's Hospital Based Massage Therapy Stewardship. You will hear from the instructors and students of our class at University of Kentucky hospital in Lexington, KY. NOTE: Some sections of this episode were recorded in the hospital, so the sound is inconsistent in parts. We thank you for your…
 
Aw, rats! The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists. …
 
It's the "what I did on my summer vacation" episode. Cal Cates and Kerry Jordan talk with Corey Rivera about their recent presentation at the Mountain Search and Rescue conference in Estes Park, Colorado. *********** Burnout Study: https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Financial-Sustainability/Backcountry-Search-and-Rescue-Study.pdf ************ Join t…
 
The Education Department (Rebecca and Corey) take on a question from a podcast listener about how to keep learning after massage school. There's some perspective, some Piaget, and very little predictability. ********** The budgeting software with the cute little elephant: https://www.youneedabudget.com/ ********** Coursera, lots of online courses, …
 
We are so excited to talk to Nellie Galindo, disability advocate, sexual health educator, and speaker at Healwell's September Symposium! We talk about consent, communication, care, and compassion. ********** Healwell's Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium is September 24. Register here: https://give.healwell.org/event/healthcare-and-intimacy-virtual-s…
 
Cal and Corey talk with Jennifer O'Brien, author of The Hospice Doctor's Widow, about holding the truths that come along with a life-changing diagnosis, and facing the reality that, sooner or later, we all have to die. ********** Find The Hospice Doctor's Widow here: https://www.etaliapress.com/new-products/the-hospice-doctors-widow-a-journal *****…
 
Cal talks with Kammaleathahh Livingstone, founder of Tip It Forward (tipitforward.org) about trauma-informed care, connecting with the community, and the essential difficulty of being a human. ********** Take Tip It Forward's Introduction to Trauma Informed Care class here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/intro-to-trauma-informed-care *********…
 
Cal Cates, Corey Rivera, and Laura Bryant-Earner went to the International Massage Therapy Research Conference on May 12-13. In this episode, they sit down and talk about the conference, research, and what is hopeful and frustrating about being together in meat space again. ********** Check out this practice based research network (as mentioned in …
 
It's season 7! This preview episode features Rebecca and Kerry talking about all the fun episodes coming up this season. ********** We want to hear from you! Email us at podcast@healwell.org ********** Join the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Join the legion of Super Secret Squirrels at our Patreon: patreon…
 
In the Season 6 finale, we are pleased to welcome Sakinah Irizarry, co-presenter of Challenging Racism in the Massage Industry, and all-around thoughtful individual. We start the conversation with proposed legislation in New York state, roam into questions of harm, responsibility, and the deep stickiness of massage legislation. ********** Find out …
 
We are pleased to welcome back Anne Kelemen, one of Healwell's favorite recurring guests. Anne joins Kerry and Rebecca to talk about intimacy and chronic illness. ********** Check out Anne's latest course, "The Power of Our Words": https://online.healwell.org/courses/power-of-our-words ********** Read Anne's research about assessing the impact of i…
 
Kerry, Corey, and Rebecca are talking false assumptions about the human body and how they affect care. And, because it's us, the conversation goes in multiple directions, including: pain, lactic acid, and touch-seeking behaviors. Editor's Note: Many apologies for the background noise on this one. Rebecca was in a remote location with free-ranging c…
 
We're going back to school in this episode, and sharing stories of our massage school experiences, and of course bringing it out to the profession in general. And we might even be touching our hair. ********** Continue the conversation with us! Send us an email or a voice memo -- podcast@healwell.org Join us in the Healwell Community for even deepe…
 
Toxins. Cleanse. Healer. Based on Psychology. Cal Cates, Kerry Jordan, and Corey Rivera explore these and other wellness swear words. What do we mean when we say the things we say? ********** Did we talk about your favorite wellness swear word? If not, please send us an email at podcast@healwell.org ********** Continue the conversation with us in t…
 
Corey, Kerry, and Rebecca talk about mental health in the treatment room. Are we really prepared? What about our colleagues in other health care professions? And -- what is up with the massage room panic buttons? ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community: healwell.org/community *********** Support us on Patreon! This we…
 
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